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Cap in a fine restaurant

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by jerrysfriend, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Well-Known Member

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    Fine, I blame my story about Ruth's Chris on my to-be father in law. Just don't tell him I said so. I stand (or slouch on the couch as it were) corrected many times over.

    bob
     
  2. jumpman69

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    I always wear fitted's in the restaurants.
     
  3. eastcoastrider27

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    It's up to the discretion of the restaraunt to set the dress code.

    If you came up to me while I was having my dinner and asked/told me to remove my hat (not saying that I neccesarily wear one at dinner), I would ask you to go outside and ruin your fancy little "Savile Row bespoke suit, shirt by Charvet, H&H tie and EG shoes".

    If a manager/owner/employee asked me to remove the hat, then I would courteously oblige.

    You have no right to make me remove my hat. You can scoff at me with your nose in the air. But rest assured, that nose would be broken if some clown felt their evening was ruined by another human, simply because of their attire.

    In fact, I'd be more annoyed by the person who thinks their brand name clothing enhances the atmosphere, rather than by the person wearing a hat that supposedly less said ambience.
     
  4. kennethpollock

    kennethpollock Well-Known Member

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    I thought I would add this to the discussion purely as an example. We all know that different places have different customs and that while doing X might be considered gauche in one city it isn't in another. Here in Annapolis, Maryland, apparently things are pretty laid back. We apparently have the only Ruth's Chris Steakhouse to *not* require men to wear a jacket. I've never been, but my gf's father says so.

    bob


    I go back a long way with Ruth's Chris. I ate my first meal at Chris' Steak House in New Orleans in 1959, while in college at Tulane. I remember that my then girlfriend's father's poker club ate there once a month. They were slobs (think Oscar Madison) and certainly did not dress up for dinner. The day after I graduated Tulane Law School in 1965, Ruth Fertell bought the place. She had worked in administation at Tulane, I think as a secretary, and her timing was to buy it right after the school year ended.
    A few years later, on a visit back to New Orleans, I ate there with my wife and my sister. Ruth had changed the name by then. She did not want to do entirely away with the old name (as lots of locals still call it Chris') but got tired of newcomers asking if she was Chris. She began franchising in the 1970s.
    She died a few years ago. Before her death, she sold out to a group of investors. Her $400,000 marble tomb is located right next to one built by the founder of Popeye's and Copeland's. When the tomb was first built, [the dying] Ruth had a big party at the site, with a marching funeral band. Instead of sprinkling holy water on the tomb, the priest subtituted beer.
    The original Chris' location, on Broad Street, on the way back to town from the racetrack, was destroyed by Katrina and will not be re-built. The head office has moved to Tampa.
     
  5. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Well-Known Member

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    Someone commented that they could not imagine why a man would wear a cap in such a situation. Recognizing that I am describing a fairly unique situation, I offer one hypothetical reason. I once worked with a guy who had had some sort of brain surgery that, obviously, required that the surgeons cut open, and then suture closed, his head. The resulting scars were very visible, and he was very self-conscious about it. As a result, he wore a baseball cap constantly, even in situations where it appeared quite incongrous. I can imagine someone who is self-conscious about hair loss, visible birth marks, scars, etc. might choose to wear a hat at all times in public, although such an explanation obviously does not speak to the type of hat one chooses.
    It occurs to me that -- while not likely -- it could have been a religious observance issue. Some of my observant Jewish neighbors use a baseball cap as their chosen head-covering as opposed to yarmulke or other more traditional choice. Again, though, it certainly can be argued that there are more appropriate types of head-covers for certain venues.
     

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