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Can You Recommend A Cologne For The "Sophisticated" Man

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Hey Man, Apr 9, 2007.

  1. Hey Man

    Hey Man Well-Known Member

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    By the way, how much value should I put into the reviews at Basenotes for any given colonge. Some of the cologne's recommened by Joel and Drizzt3117 have some horrid reviews on Basenotes.

    I know that cologne's have different responses to different people and that's fine, but I was just curious if the reviews at Basenotes are pretty reliable in that most people know what they are talking about for the most part or is it like Amazon, where you take the reviews at face value and laugh at the person who states that the Beatles were the worst band in history.
     
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    I think a lot of the extremely negative reviews are from people who can't wear something because it doesn't work well on their skin. At least, that's the idea I get having read a bunch where I know there's just no other way that someone could think that about one.

    In any case, I think you would be best off picking 5 or 6 of these that sound interesting and getting small samples and/or decants of all of them to try. There's no substitute for spraying it on yourself and living with it for a day.
     
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    Let's help a fellow Canadian here.

    Both Drizzt3117 & Joel got me started in Basenote. Information there is very valuable. As a Canadian, you may not be able to get some of the suggested frags here. May I make one more suggestion, I like Hermes Terre'd Hermes. To my untrained nose, it starts out with a citrus/neroli scent, dries down to a sweet vanilla scent. It is not over powering and I enjoy wearing it. Like many who have said here, you will have to sample many scents in order to find out which ones work best for you.
    ...Hope this helps.


    Great posts, Drzzzt3117 and others...

    I normally wear Canali and wanted something less candy-ish. Went shopping yesterday and narrowed the choice to Purple Label (Neiman said they were the only ones who carried it???) and Terre D'Hermes. Went with the Hermes.

    I smell grapefruit over the normal orange that others smell, and it's dried to a softer generic citrus on me. I think it would work well for the OP's situation.
     
  4. drizzt3117

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    By the way, how much value should I put into the reviews at Basenotes for any given colonge. Some of the cologne's recommened by Joel and Drizzt3117 have some horrid reviews on Basenotes. I know that cologne's have different responses to different people and that's fine, but I was just curious if the reviews at Basenotes are pretty reliable in that most people know what they are talking about for the most part or is it like Amazon, where you take the reviews at face value and laugh at the person who states that the Beatles were the worst band in history.
    I use Basenotes to buy/sell and that's pretty much it. Like this forum, it used to be a lot better before a shitload of noobs show up that don't know anything about fragrances. That said there are a few people whose opinion I respect when it comes to new colognes to try, etc. Ultimately if you want to know if a cologne will work for you, you need to try it. Buy a sample or decant from Basenotes or ebay ($3-20 depending on the size etc) and try a bunch of fragrances, then use the ones that work for you. As far as negative reviews go, if you bought a new fragrance (probably w/o trying it) for $200 and then thought it sucked, you'd probably post a negative review too.
     
  5. Joel_Cairo

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    By the way, how much value should I put into the reviews at Basenotes for any given colonge. Some of the cologne's recommened by Joel and Drizzt3117 have some horrid reviews on Basenotes.

    The best thing to do, IMO, is to look up a cologne you know you like. Find one of the reviews you agree with and then read other reviews by that reviewer, as his nose may likely be similar to yours. There are some truly rubbish reviews on there, but I find that those are usually from fly-by-night types who have never reviewed or even tried anything than the one frag they are reviewing (i.e.: "OMG Acqua di Gio is the greatest colone ever, the only one you need to get the chicks!!!")

    I normally wear Canali and wanted something less candy-ish. Went shopping yesterday and narrowed the choice to Purple Label (Neiman said they were the only ones who carried it???) and Terre D'Hermes. Went with the Hermes.

    I smell grapefruit over the normal orange that others smell, and it's dried to a softer generic citrus on me. I think it would work well for the OP's situation.


    that purple label exclusivity claim is a boldfaced lie. I can't tell you how many different stores have told me they have an exclusive on the exact same scent. Scented Monkey has a 2.5 oz. bottle for $50 and I frequently see it at Outlet Malls. B&M shopping for frags is the most frustrating thing in the world, because the staff is so infuriatingly uneducated (for kicks, try going to the men's fragrances section of any store and ask the paid professional behind the counter to recommend "something with bergamot topnotes and benzoin in the heartnotes")

    Terre D'Hermes may indeed be very good for the OP. Its gota nice mineral crispness, someone once described it as a cold stone covered in morning dew. The perfumer, Jean-Claude Ellena, is known for his "transparent" creations, so it's great for summer, though I feel it lacks the body I want for a year-rounder.
     
  6. Hey Man

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    On my lunch break - I was able to try a couple. I did not like Armani Mania, but really loved Hugo Boss Baldessarini and Dolce and Gabbana Per Homme. I think someone mentioned that everyone wears the Dolce and Gabanna one, but is the Baldessarini less common?
     
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    On my lunch break - I was able to try a couple. I did not like Armani Mania, but really loved Hugo Boss Baldessarini and Dolce and Gabbana Per Homme. I think someone mentioned that everyone wears the Dolce and Gabanna one, but is the Baldessarini less common?

    much less so. I also think it's plain better. Its more versatile, because it's lighter, but still retains the sought-after sexiness that tobacco brings to a frag's basenote. be forewarned, though, that it's an Eau de Cologne (the frag concentration with the least actual perfume in it) so it's pretty weak in longevity.
     
  9. Hey Man

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    Joel,

    Someone mentions that on Basenotes and says to get Aramis Life as it is the same smell, but lasts longer. Would you recommend that one? Should I trust Andrewthecologneguy?

    This is an outstanding scent, however, it has one great fault:
    IT DOESN'T LAST!!!
    It is frustrating because the 'juice' (thanks, Eluard) is so delicious, unlike anything out there...UNTIL I discovered ARAMIS LIFE.
    IF YOU LOVE THIS SCENT, GET ARAMIS LIFE. LIFE DRIES DOWN TO A STRONGER BLADESSARINI. TRUST ME, I HAVE THEM BOTH.
    With that being said, getting thru the top notes of Aramis Life is like having to eat the skin on a kiwi in order to get to the kiwi itself.

    Also, don't pay the BS $100 for the chrome flacon Prestige bottle...check TJ Maxx like STUFFMAN said, or go online. $30 max.

    by Andrewthecologneguy
     
  10. Joel_Cairo

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    sorry Hey Man, but I don't know enough about Andrew the cologne guy or Aramis Life to comment really. I will say, though, that I'm wary of anyone who reviews in CAPS and notes primarily that something doesn't last, is too expensive or smells exactly like something else. Nothing really smells exactly like anything else, though it may seem so at first. Reviews like this (which dont actually venture a description of the smell at all) make me think the guy didnt actually wear it long enough or enough times to form a real impression, and just wanted to post a hastey review.
     
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    Joel,

    Thanks for your comments. Well since I do love Baldessarini and we are getting closer to the kind of scent I prefer, could you recommend something similar that does last longer?
     
  12. drizzt3117

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    I don't really think Baldessarini is that short lived. Certainly it lasts longer than something like GIT. I've never really thought of it as a short-lived cologne.

    BTW that Askmen article was written a long time ago, like 5 years ago or so. Personally I like Acqua di Gio, and wear it occasionally. It's a nice clear fresh scent, but isn't the end-all be-all that amjacks think it is.
     
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    Thanks for your comments. Well since I do love Baldessarini and we are getting closer to the kind of scent I prefer, could you recommend something similar that does last longer?

    I find Vera Wang for Men to be along similar lines, maybe a touch more floral.

    I don't really think Baldessarini is that short lived. Certainly it lasts longer than something like GIT. I've never really thought of it as a short-lived cologne.

    As Drizzt points out, longevity has everything to do with body chemistry. i recommedn you go back to the store tomorrow and spray just Baldessarini (too many different samples will give you "olfactory fatigue") wear it around for the afternoon, see if it lingers. I like to test things of 3 or even 4 different days before I pull the trigger.
     
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    BTW if anyone is interested in Bond No. 9, tonight I stopped by the Bond No. 9 counter at SCP and the saleslady was very helpful. She gave me a bunch of samples and said she would send them out to people who were interested. You can contact her by calling Saks Fifth Avenue in Costa Mesa. Her name is Stephanie.
     
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    Basenotes buying and selling forum really helped me to zero in on my favorites. A 10 ml decant goes a really long way, especially since once you get into this you will quickly end up with a wardrobe of favorites and so will probably jump around a lot. It's a good cheap way to refine your tastes. I'm in Canada too, and have never had trouble with shipments. Also +1 on seeing Naz at the PerfumeShoppe if you are in Vancouver.

    Creed BdP, mentioned a few times, is a favorite of mine. Creed GIT, LV Piper Nigrum, Helmut Lang Cuiron, Aramis Havana are as well (kind of a basenotes top 10).
     
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    Basenotes buying and selling forum really helped me to zero in on my favorites. A 10 ml decant goes a really long way, especially since once you get into this you will quickly end up with a wardrobe of favorites and so will probably jump around a lot. It's a good cheap way to refine your tastes. I'm in Canada too, and have never had trouble with shipments. Also +1 on seeing Naz at the PerfumeShoppe if you are in Vancouver.

    Creed BdP, mentioned a few times, is a favorite of mine. Creed GIT, LV Piper Nigrum, Helmut Lang Cuiron, Aramis Havana are as well (kind of a basenotes top 10).


    Where do you find Aramis Havana? It's been discontinued, but I always ask for it anyway and have never found it.

    +1 on BdP. It's my favorite fragrance.
     
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    I got my order of Chez Bond and Central Park from allshewants today... $120 shipped for those two [​IMG]
     
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    Mr Cairo sir, I have a quick question. I have been on a steady diet of Gucci Envy the past 15 months, and would like to try something similar, but with a more modern feel.

    I'm thinking of Dior Homme, since it's peppery and woodsy, but a little on the sweet side, giving a younger scent.

    What's your opinion?
     

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