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Can the Navy Suit, White Shirt, No Tie Look Be Saved?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by GusW, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. Luc-Emmanuel

    Luc-Emmanuel Well-Known Member

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    Sharp knees, wouldn't bang.
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  2. Calder

    Calder Well-Known Member

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    Add an open-neck cravat?
     
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  3. unbelragazzo

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    Part of the problem is that once you get outside of the world of staged photos, the shirt collar is gonna be crushed much of the time. The button down is a solution but it takes away from the sharp and sleek look of the more successful iterations here.
     
  4. edmorel

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    All the looks posted in this thread, with the exception of Ford, would look better with a tie IMO or with a sportcoat rather than a suit (or no jacket at all).
     
  5. FlyingMonkey

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    The OP is asking how the suit+open-neck shirt look can be done or if its even possible to get it right. Surely, saying is that all of these looks would look better if they weren't a suit+open neck shirt (i.e. if they weren't the same look at all) doesn't really get to the point? In fact, I don't think there's really anything to add to what Fuuma said about this.
     
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  7. unbelragazzo

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    To ed's point...consider this alternative...are any of the fits with the suit instead of the blazer and odd trousers better?

    [​IMG]
     
  8. edmorel

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    Its exactly the point, if it looks better in a different manner, why wear it this way?



    Need to see more pics of her to come up with an appropriate answer.
     
  9. unbelragazzo

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    check PM :smarmy:
     
  10. Rkcarpio

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    I'm a big fan of these two looks. Especially on hot days. Simplicity is great and it gives a chance to accessorize really well with a watch or great/noticeable loafers.
     
  11. AntonioG

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    Cool combo. Who makes those loafers?
     
  12. Jackie Treehorn

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    The shirt collar seems to make all the difference. Pulling off this look successfully means wearing a collar that stands up on its own, doesn't flop limply to the sides, and shows no undershirt when open. I know of at least some folks who, when they get their shirts made, request that the tailor place the second button a little bit lower than normal -- so as better to achieve the "Tom Ford" look when unbuttoned.

    Conversely, the look on Obama and Ryan -- which is more often seen in public -- comes across as childish and sloppy. It's their attempt to adopt a so-called common touch, and appear to be men of the people. Unfortunately, they succeed too well in this aim.
     
  13. JonasAberg

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    For me, there are two things that make or break this look; the collar (as already mentioned) and a pocket square. A tie adds a bit of interest and depth to the suit. Without a tie the suit looks unfinished and "naked". However, the pocket square can serve the same function AND it won't look like you just don't know how to tie a tie.
     
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    What you see on the campaign trail is not a great fitting navy suit with a crisp white shirt, but a not so well fitting boxy navy suit with a white shirt and silly flag-pin on the lapel. IMHO a completely different look.
     
  15. BrizzleCizzle

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    ^This. As mentioned previously, how well put together the look is the harbinger of success or failure. The collar's ability to stay erect like it's just ingested viagra helps keep the look clean. The image of our political posterboys with collars flatter than pancakse and shirts so ill fitting they buttons are collapsing on the fabric between them - shuddering. Having said that, it is a very specific and very planned outfit for political candidates, it is far from sloppily thrown together.

    However, as we are not political hopefuls, dress like you do well for yourself, and in this application it means a crisp collar on a well fitting shirt, a (i prefer darker, but NY street style suggests lighter, cartoonish even) blue suit with a PS of varying character pending your own, a simple watch, and an according lace up or loafer. Hell, those guidelines with almost any color suit may be a recipe for success (ALMOST any color suit...).
     
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    Guys, no one outside of SF will notice the fucking collar....

    They will however notice the COLOR.

    Don't wear navy that looks black is all.
     
  17. FlyingMonkey

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    I think you may be missing the point of SF... [​IMG]
     
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