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Campbell Cooper Waxed Jackets?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by WBaker, Oct 11, 2010.

  1. WBaker

    WBaker Well-Known Member

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    I just came across the Campbell motorcycle jacket..and it really looks pretty descent for a nice price... It would be very interesting to know if it really stands well as a wax jacket.. Anybody else owns a similar jacket?
    Pan
     
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    Wow, amazingly cheap for a made in England waxed jacket....what's the dealio?
     
  4. mclean

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    I just came across the Campbell motorcycle jacket..and it really looks pretty descent for a nice price... It would be very interesting to know if it really stands well as a wax jacket.. Anybody else owns a similar jacket?
    Pan


    It's ok, it'll wipe off.
     
  5. WBaker

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    I emailed them 2 days ago and they have yet to get back to me.
     
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    Do they ship to US?

    I like a bunch on their site.
     
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    That's a pretty low price - I have to wonder.
     
  8. WBaker

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    Do they ship to US?

    I like a bunch on their site.


    Yeah that was part of my email to them. I also asked for some better pictures, but they still haven't responded.
     
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    i emailed them yesterday...asking about the motorcycle jacket (47 gbp and 6 for shipping to greece) and they answered pretty fast.. The pics of the site are not very clear... I have also found the ebay store ... and the seller (pretty much the same as the original's store)...is indicated as a valid seller.. My question definitely is about the quality of the product itself (in the site it is written about 12 oz heavyweight wax...and it is rather impressive...)

    Anybody has bought a jacket from them ??(or any other product..) What do you think???


    Pan
     
  11. Kingstonian

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    There have always been less expensive alternatives to Barbour. Waxed jackets were big in the UK in the 1980s on the back of the Sloane Ranger thing.

    Looks like there are alternatives to Drizabone too.

    Personally, I cannot stand waxed jackets.
     
  12. TM79

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    There have always been less expensive alternatives to Barbour. Waxed jackets were big in the UK in the 1980s on the back of the Sloane Ranger thing.

    Looks like there are alternatives to Drizabone too.

    Personally, I cannot stand waxed jackets.


    I like some but a lot of them have that belted waist which to me comes off as a very feminine thing to have on a coat... I have seen 2 Belstaff and 1 Barbour which I really like except all 3 have the waist belt.
     
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    Whilst I haven't tried, or even seen, a Cambell Cooper jacket I have seen other cheaper waxed jacket brands, they are common in cheaper UK country stores. Generally they are not as good quality as Barbours, Cambell Cooper might be the exception to this, but I kind of doubt it.

    I always hate it when people casually dismiss the garment the OP is asking about and recommend something 3x as expensive, but I have to say if you like that style of jacket get the Barbour, they are worth it.

    I know people who have been regularly wearing the same jacket formore than 20 years. I have been wearing my current bedale for around four years and can confidently say that whilst no other garment I own could come close to surviving what I have put it through my barbour looks better now than it did when I bought it, and looks like it will easily survive another eight years of the same treatment.
     
  14. jay-ninja

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    Thought I'd bump this thread back to life as I've just taken delivery of a Campbell Cooper Wax jacket - It cost me £58 delivered.

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    Here's my review.

    I own a Belstaff Trialmaster and have looked very closely at the Barbour International too. Now, when you consider a Belstaff is going to cost you around £350 and a Barbour £225 I sort of expected that the Campbell Cooper version would be a poor-mans version of the aforementioned icons of wax style. In many ways it is and in my opinion this is due to some silly details which I think the manufacturers could easily fix. Here's the main bug bears;

    Fit : The cut of the jacket is very wide in the arms - The upper sleeves are very wide and it makes the jacket look to big, when actually in the body it's not that bad. The fit overall is definitely roomy rather than tailored.

    Belt: Works fine but the buckle is awful - I don't understand why they can't use a decent brass buckle rather than the cheap nasty covered fabric effort

    Pocket Poppers: For some reason they position the poppers in a very odd place on the pocket flaps - They look odd and I don't understand why they can't be positioned more like the Barbour. What is nice is a zipper under the right pocket

    That's my mine gripes. On the plus side the wax cotton is good quality - not particularly waxy but a good weight. The lining is plain black so nothing fancy. It has a good double zipper with ring puller - which is further nod to Barbour. Shame they didn't use antique brass rather than bright shiny new hardware.

    So that's about it. I bought this jacket becuase it was cheap and I wanted to try an experiment - I plan to 'vintage' this jacket and try to make it look like it's been owned by me for years. Whilst all wax jacket manufactures always state you shouldn't wash them I plan to do just that. here's my plan;

    - Wash the jacket about 5 times in the machine with detergent :crazy:
    - Last wash add a touch of dye stripper
    - Rough-up the fabric and hardware with light grade sandpaper
    - Re-wax with a mix of parrafin wax and beeswax (90 to 10 mix)
    - Allow to dry then rough with a hard bristle brush
    - Re wax with Barbour thornproof dressing for the final touch

    After all that and if it's still in one piece I'll take pics and post them up the site for comments (probably on my sanity for one thing !)

    To just add to this post, after recieving my jacket I promptly set about trying to vintage it. After about 5 washes in the machine, a blast with my power washer and chucking it around my driveway here's the result;

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  15. jay-ninja

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    Thought I'd post this pic of my 2nd Campbell Cooper jacket.

    I dyed this one green - really pleased with the result - looks very vintage;

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  16. Gluteus Maximus

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    Hi Jay,

    Thanks for posting. That is the only example of a 'waxed jacket having been through the wash' that i have found online. I've a very old Belstaff jacket and am getting fed up with its constantly damp feel - and smell. I don't mind ruining the protective/water proofing but want to wear it without feeling all waxy. It'd been re-waxed so many times that the inside lining also feels waxy. It currently looks very similar to your last picture, but a fair bit dirtier/darker.

    What were the effects of sticking it in the machine? Did most of the wax come off first time?
     
  17. MrSmith

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    Jay,

    excellent results!!

    i'm VERY interested in how you dyed the wax cotton... can you outline your steps? I want a campbell jacket but in the old fashioned olive, and they only do black.
     
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  18. jay-ninja

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    This reply is a little late, but here goes anyway.

    Step 1 : I took the standard black Campbell Cooper jacket and put it thru the washing machine about 4 times on a 40 degree wash. This pretty much removed all the wax, plus it make the jacket a little more irregular in shape overall.

    Step 2 : I bought a pack of dylon dye stripper - this is the stuff that removes colour pryor to dying. I filled my bath up enough to cover the jacket and left it in overnight. When I came back to it the following morning the jacket was a kind of yellow brown colour

    Step 3 : I washed the jacket again.

    Step 4: I bought a pack of green dye and dyed the jacket in the washing machine.

    Step 5: I let it dry completely and then re-waxed it.


    So, that's a lot of work and some might say better to just pick up a second hand Barbour and save yourself the hassle - But I knind of enjoyed the transformation - Filled a dull weekend !!!
     
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  19. teebucket

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    yes i have bought from campbell copper and they are very good stood up well in 20 degrees below weather and im ordering again from david
     
  20. jay-ninja

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    I recently bought a jacket from Chequered Flag, they are currently selling a black Trialmaster style jacket on ebay at a very reasonable £89. Here's my quick review;

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    I wasn't sure what to expect for this price tag - But actually the jacket is really nice. It's a heavyweight 12 Oz wax cotton with a check lining that's exactly the same pattern as my Barbour International. The fit is good - not tailored but equally not too baggy. It has all the features you'd expect from a Belstaff Trialmaster, four main pockets, a zipped inside pocket, adjustable cuffs and buckle and strap at the neck plus shoulder and elbow patches. As for it's ability to keep the rain out, well I wore it on the bike through a 40 minute rain shower and it kept me dry !

    What don't I like about it ? Well not much really, the press studs are shiny brass yet the buckles are antique, so it's a shame they didn't use antique all round. Also the press studs don't feel quite as good quality as my Barbour Intl, they spin around on the fabric rather than being stamped firmly on - that said they don't feel at all like they are likely to fall off. A nice detail is it also has two mesh vent studs under each arm.

    Another feature is the interchangeable flag option on the left breast pocket - again a nod to Belstaff. Basically you get a selection of flags; Union jack, Stars & Stripes, Welsh, Scottish and Irish which use velcro to attach them to the tag under the pocket. But quite why anyone would want to fly the welsh flag is beyond me u k fl ag

    The shoulder and elbow patches, well again being picky, but it would be nice if these were double stitched like a Belstaff rather than just single.

    I've worn the jacket solidly over the past month and I have to say I'm loving it - It just feels solid. This jacket is the cheapest in the Speedwear range but I have say it certainly doesn't feel budget. They also sell a de-luxe 'Continental in Black or Brown (£169) and that has a zip-out liner and pockets for armour - So you can get some extra insulation and protection for a bit more cash.

    Here's the ebay link if anyones interested;

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-W..._Men_s_Coats_Jackets&var=&hash=item8bbcaebe7d
     
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