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Calf or Cordovan? Probably Edward Green

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Modic, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. Modic

    Modic Active Member

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    i am going to purchase a monk strap or boot from Edward Green.
    Calf or Cordovan?
    What do you think?
    Please kindly share your experiences and comment.
     
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  2. alexSF

    alexSF Well-Known Member

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    Calf as first choice or Cordovan with double sole and brass buckles
     
  3. Modic

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    I believe double sole mean double leather sole.
    May I know why?
     
  4. gsugsu

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    You haven't decided between monk or boot? You should do this first or are you asking for people to convince you one way or the other? Are you doing an MTO or buying RTW? Makes a difference with respect to being able to find cordovan in either. What will you wear the monk or boot with? Suits? Odd jackets & trousers? Casual wear? Double or single monk? Balmoral boot or open lacing? More info would help people give you ideas.

    RTW EG shoes and boots in cordovan rare. Leather Soul has the Troon single monk in shell. EG balmoral boots are few and far between in any kind of leather outside of MTO. Leffot has the Epsom (in a black colour way) and Leather Soul has the Shannon in coffee suede. I don't know of any others out there and none in cordovan. There are several EG non-balmoral RTW boots available although not in shell AFAIK: Galway, Nevis & Alderley. I'm not including Chukkas here.

    Maybe others can chime in here but you'd do well to elaborate on what you are looking for.
     
  5. Modic

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    Ok. Let me elaborate.

    I will purchase both monk and boot.
    But not both at once.
    Color will be brown or burgundy
    The main purpose is not for business suit, but business causual or smart casual.

    For monk, I target at double monk Westminster.
    For boot, I guess I may dress in a more casual way.
    Target at either Galway or Shannon.

    I dont mind to be MTO as they would probably be my long lasting pairs.
     
  6. hendrix

    hendrix Well-Known Member

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    calf.

    IMO, cordovan is best for beater shoes in chunky lasts with double soles.
     
  7. MSchapiro

    MSchapiro Well-Known Member

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    Can you elaborate on why? I'm curious.
     
  8. hendrix

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    It's a waxy leather, a pull up. It's thick and stiff and can take quite a bit off abuse, the tradeoff being that it doesn't breathe particularly well. To me feels like a halfway medium between the stuff that waxy work boots are made out of and normal dress shoes. I think that's part of the reason for it's historical popularity - you can beat the shit out of it, and then give it a brush and it'll look presentable. Certainly the more famous shell models have been casual shoes - the classic #08 longwing is pretty chunky.

    I find calf to be more luxurious and elegant for sleek dress shoes - oxfords, sleek monks etc.

    OTOH I have seen some nice looking sleek cordovan models - Carmina seems to excel in this department. I can't help but think they'd be as good or better in calf though.
     
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  9. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    This is StyleForum yo, make it a double monk boot in chisel lasts with #8 shell cordovan leather and beveled sole and cuban heels. bonus points for using gunmetal color shell cordovan.
     
  10. Modic

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    Chogall, what do you want to bring out?
    Be constructive then
     
  11. AlexE

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    Westminster is a elegant style - something I would get for myself definitely in calf (they are especially gorgeous on the 888 last in dark oak antique or bronze antique)

    Sturdier boots in cordovan - why not?
     
  12. JayJay

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    As others have posted, I'd get the monk in calf and boot in shell with a double sole. The sleek last on the monk will look much better in calf whereas the boot will be better able to handle rough duty in shell with a double sole.
     
  13. MSchapiro

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    Excellent explanation, thank you.
     
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    :rotflmao:
     
  15. ap10046

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    I say get the EG Hove's or their RL counterpart...there's a pair for sale on the B&S...and the Carmina Balmoral Cordovan boots..
    Depending on your size..there's a few pairs of Lindricks for sale on the 'Bay.
     
  16. tim_horton

    tim_horton Well-Known Member

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    In general I prefer calf to cordovan. I think calf looks better, and I've never found the durability of my calf shoes to be poor enough that I feel like I needed cordovan. I didlike the waxy, rippled look of cordovan but that's just me. Even my winter dress boots are leather FWIW. After buying a few pairs of cordovan shoes (Alden, Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren, and Carmina) I've sold them all, except for a pair of burgundy Carmina wingtips which have a sick color and depth without the stereotypical ripples or waxiness.
     
  17. imolazhp_ci

    imolazhp_ci Well-Known Member

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    i only buy cordovan for casual shoes. loafers, boots, etc. i think cordovan dress shoes look blech.
     
  18. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    you want constructive advice? here's constructive advice.

    grained calf galway boots from eg. it eliminates two disasters in your thinking - monks and cordovan.
     
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    ^ a bit dramatic but your advice is spot on - Galway boot
     
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