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C&J Albany

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ambulance Chaser, Mar 31, 2006.

  1. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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  2. Tibo

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    I really like the Crockett and Jones Albany being sold by Ben Silver:

    http://www.bensilver.com/fs_storefro...y=6115&group=2

    Is this shoe a regular C&J model or is made specially for Ben Silver? Is it a Handgrade?


    Gosh, that's a beautiful shoe indeed ... Pity it does not exist in black as well. Does anybody know if Ben Silver ships to Europe ?

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that AFAIK it's not a regular C&J model.
     
  3. Duveen

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    Hi AC,

    Not a regular model. I thought long and hard about that being my major dark-suede shoe purchase, but ended up going for the RL Alton @ ~$290 instead.

    I am sure that I have never seen that model elsewhere.

    What do you think the last is? The combination of a more-rounded toe and a toe cap makes it looks slightly less-than-perfect, but the catalogue photos that I saw in the print version were just gorgeous...
     
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    I saw a pair of C&J Albany at Barneys NYC last weekend. Same style as the Ben Silver one, for sale for I think around $300.

    Searched the web and found it's also available in black:

    http://www.armenak.fr/produits/nos_m...h&id_marque=27

    Anyone knows what last it's on? The one at Barneys looked sleeker than 337, but the salesman couldn't tell.
     
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    I saw a pair of C&J Albany at Barneys NYC last weekend. Same style as the Ben Silver one, for sale for I think around $300.

    Wow! I'd have been sorely tempted (unless it was black).
     
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    nope it was dark brown suede just like the Ben Silver model
     
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    I saw a pair of C&J Albany at Barneys NYC last weekend. Same style as the Ben Silver one, for sale for I think around $300. Anyone knows what last it's on? The one at Barneys looked sleeker than 337, but the salesman couldn't tell.
    I'd guess the 330. I have the Downings (also available from Ben Silver), and they're on the 330 last. Comparing the shape of the Albany to that of the Downing, I suspect they're on the same last. Incidentally, I definitely do not see the round-toe Albany last as sleeker than the 337; to me it's just the opposite!
     
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    I've got a pair of C&J HG Albany in light tan antique and AFAIK they are made in all the usual suspect HG leather colors. With the Albany it's just the same as with e.g. the Hanover or the Tavistock - for some reason, they don't belong to C&J's regular HG line up, but they are available at certain store chains or via special order. Oh, and they are definitely made on the 337 last. It's the suede that makes the shape look different in the linked picture. Here's a picture of my pair: [​IMG]
     
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    I've got a pair of C&J HG Albany in light tan antique and AFAIK they are made in all the usual suspect HG leather colors. With the Albany it's just the same as with e.g. the Hanover or the Tavistock - for some reason, they don't belong to C&J's regular HG line up, but they are available at certain store chains or via special order. (...)

    Does that mean that they would not be available via Plal ?
     
  10. RJman

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    Yes, C&J is loath to sell any special models through plal.

    I have a very similar shoe C&J made for Cleverley. It's great. So I guess you could call Korshak or Kempson to see if they stock a Cleverley adelaide.
     
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    C: Sounds like you're ready to order an Edward Green Lichfield or Canderbury in their mink suede when you see Hilary Freeman next month! [​IMG]
     
  12. Ambulance Chaser

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    AC: Sounds like you're ready to order an Edward Green Lichfield or Canderbury in their mink suede when you see Hilary Freeman next month! [​IMG]
    Actually, I was interested in this model specifically for its ability to substitute for the Lichfield, freeing up funds to go to other EG models. [​IMG] Right now, I'm thinking about the Oundle, the Exeter (if still available), or a high-vamp loafer.
     
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    ... So I guess you could call Korshak or Kempson to see if they stock a Cleverley adelaide.
    What exactly is an adelaide. A shoe with brogueing around the eyelets? Or does it have to have brogueing around the heel cap too? I am looking for a definition here. Thanks.
     
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    Actually, I was interested in this model specifically for its ability to substitute for the Lichfield, freeing up funds to go to other EG models. [​IMG] Right now, I'm thinking about the Oundle, the Exeter (if still available), or a high-vamp loafer.
    If you go to Northampton anyway, why not pop into C&J's factory store in Perry Street and check for the Albany? They had it in several different colors and sizes last time I was there and it would be "only" 210 GBP incl. VAT. My suggestion for Northampton: go to Oliver St. (JL) first, because there you get the best bang for the buck. You pay 220 GBP for prestige line seconds/rejects that are up to 740 GBP in Jermyn Street. Then go to Perry St. (C&J), though only on Friday afternoons or Saturday mornings, and finally go see Hilary. EG sells factory outlet shoes for the by far highest price (285 GBP vs. 445 GBP in London). Things were different with Susie, but this time has come and gone. [​IMG]
     
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    An adelaide is also known as a u-throat.

    [​IMG]

    compared to:

    [​IMG]

    Does not need to be brogued.
     
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    This pair is from Barneys, definitely on 337 last.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Herschel Krustofsky

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    VR: how much did the Albany's go for at Barney's in NY? They aren't carried at Barney's Beverly Hills-only the Stanley's, which are $565 in Beverly Hills and on Madison Ave. Lovely shoes, quite narrow in the toebox.
     
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    Could it be, that the Albany is also produced on a different last? It was the only handgrade that fit when I tried out different ones.
     
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    The Albany is also carried at the C&J store in Turnbull & Asser in NYC. The woman who works there told me that specific store had made the decision to stock them, and that they were not readily available via other sources.
     

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