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Buttondown Shirt Porn: Joe's Tailor (Singapore) Thomas Mason Silverline

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by josepidal, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    +1.
    They look like Borrelli to me. Jose, that collar just isn't working.
     
  2. Kei-bon

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    They look like Borrelli to me.

    [sigh] They would be ...
     
  3. embowafa

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    I was holding out hope that the fit pictures would be the saving grace, but the lack of tie space is really showing in the picture.

    The collar is wrinkling right at the top where the tie knot is.
     
  4. Shirtmaven

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    shirt looks better.

    The shirts do have some quirky details that just seem off.
    but, enjoy them.
    collar points seem OK.
    the angle of the photo makes the collar button placement seem off.
    Carl
     
  5. Douglas

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    Collar roll - I like it, it looks nice, it looks fun.

    How is it achieved?

    I presume that you must have a nice soft collar without fused interlinings, but enough weight to roll instead of crinkle. Do you also have to place the button a bit higher to force a bit of a wave into it?

    Perhaps the masters of the SF universe can educate me.
     
  6. Manton

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    On a trad BD, there is no interlining, making the collars very soft. The roll is simply a matter of cutting the points long, and positioning the buttons higher than where the tips of the points would naturally fall.
     
  7. RedScarf7

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    Where are these available for purchase online?? Though i agree that the collar looks awkward, I love the houndstooth.
     
  8. Douglas

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    On a trad BD, there is no interlining, making the collars very soft. The roll is simply a matter of cutting the points long, and positioning the buttons higher than where the tips of the points would naturally fall.

    So I was right, or damn close to right.

    Thank you, o great sartorial and political light, he who posts pantsless photos of himself on the Internet. [​IMG]
     
  9. Manton

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    So I was right, or damn close to right.

    Thank you, o great sartorial and political light, he who posts pantsless photos of himself on the Internet. [​IMG]


    You can't prove that.
     
  10. Douglas

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    ^ I don't need to, as we have seen in the Palin-Africa thread in CE. Nothing is what it is proven to be if the observer is revolutionary enough in their beliefs.

    [/intrusion of CEsspool into MC]
     
  11. mack11211

    mack11211 Well-Known Member

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    You can't prove that.

    Well, according to the Institute for Nonexistence.....

    Or in the words of the immortal Criswell at the top of PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, "Can you prove it never happened?"
     
  12. josepidal

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    collar points seem OK.
    the angle of the photo makes the collar button placement seem off.

    Thanks Carl. Could you clarify the above though? I'm not sure if I understood correctly.

    The houndstooth is from Thomas Mason Silverline; look for someone who carries it and hopefully has that pattern.
     
  13. teddieriley

    teddieriley Well-Known Member

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    Wait, you smell that?
    JP - did you "fix" the collars before shooting the pics? Seeing how soft the collar is not having any interlining, perhaps you need to spend time adjusting the collar over the tie to make sure it sits and rolls properly (i.e., the look could greatly improve if you stuck your fingers between your tie and the collars and "set" the collar correctly). Hopefully this is the issue rather than on the construction. Otherwise, it appears that in fact, the collars aren't working out (a la Vox and Manton's examples).
     
  14. itsstillmatt

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    Lots of roll: [​IMG] Less roll but very soft: [​IMG] I like them both ways, but the lack of tie space you have is killing the shirt. The Borrelli collars are really nicely shaped, but IMO are a bit too stiff.
     
  15. justsayno

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    paisley overload
    +++
    Some BD pics, showing roll and tie space:

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    [​IMG]


    - B
     
  16. teddieriley

    teddieriley Well-Known Member

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    Wait, you smell that?
    man, i want to roll like (and with) you guys.
     
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    Generally I hate the button-down-collar/tie combo.
    But this look is rather digestible [​IMG]



    [​IMG]


    Continental [​IMG]

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  19. Manton

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    Lotta iGent action in this thread.
     
  20. voxsartoria

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    Some BD pics, showing roll and tie space:

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    [​IMG]

    - B


    I love the roll on those button down collars. I haven't seen a roll that good since the sixties. Where did you get those shirts?

    First three are Kiton (or Kiton for Oxxford), last one is Borrelli. On all four, I had the buttoning point for the collars moved to where I like...this is a dangerous operation with a high mortality rate.

    Vox's pics of his button downs look really good. OP's collars don't look like they'll work with a tie. And the buttons do seem to be very close to the collar points.

    But I don't wear button downs so I'll keep out of it now.


    Thanks. You should wear them, they're great.

    They look like Borrelli to me.


    Exact on the last one, close on the first three. Essentially all the same: Neopolitan RTW.

    Lots of roll:

    [​IMG]

    Less roll but very soft:

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    I like them both ways, but the lack of tie space you have is killing the shirt. The Borrelli collars are really nicely shaped, but IMO are a bit too stiff.


    First, love the first jacket (well, like them both, but especially the first)...part of a suit, correct? Do you recall what fabric?

    And as for the collars being stiff...all the Neopolitan global RTW have fused collars, AFAIK, so yes, a bit stiff compared to good old pre-Marks & Spencer Brooks Brothers. BB collars after that became stiffer, and once BB moved from NJ to NC, very stiff...stiffer than the Italian stuff. The fusing on the Italian stuff is at least well done.

    paisley overload
    +++


    Hah! Funny how that worked out...


    - B
     

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