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Building a new computer

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Toiletduck, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. Toiletduck

    Toiletduck Well-Known Member

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    This is my proposed build for a my PC. Gonna be gaming, watching movies, and blasting music.
    Aiming to put this all on a mATX and look for a smaller and clean designed case to place this in my living room. Rig is gonna be hooked up to my TV as well as a monitor

    Intel i7 920
    X58 Mobo
    2x ATI HD 4870 1gb
    6gb DDR3

    30gb OCZ SSD for loading OS & programs
    and some other HDD for my movies/music/photos & stuff


    How much power do you think this machine will need and does anyone have any case recommendations for me?
     
  2. Rambo

    Rambo Well-Known Member

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    Check out AVSforums and silentpcreview for recommendations and advice. Beware noisy parts. Nothing kills a HTPC like a loud ass fan.
     
  3. Alias

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    I was under the impression that the money spent on SSD's can be better spent elsewhere for more performance gains.
     
  4. coldarchon

    coldarchon Well-Known Member

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    30gb OCZ SSD for loading OS & programs
    why build a computer if it's just for media and gaming? get a console then. there's no combination in computer parts that will provide the performance of a 7th generation console. and if you still want to use a computer, you will very soon find out less is more. you will laugh on this, but every serious gamer with a lot experience will tell you win98se is the best version for gaming and watching videos. if people tell you you need more, they have been tought by a sales person from a cheap mega-store ..

    How much power do you think this machine will need and does anyone have any case recommendations for me?
    too much. putting it into a cupboard would give it much more style than any case could provide, except an alienware one ..
     
  5. milosh

    milosh Well-Known Member

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    why build a computer if it's just for media and gaming? get a console then. there's no combination in computer parts that will provide the performance of a 7th generation console. and if you still want to use a computer, you will very soon find out less is more. you will laugh on this, but every serious gamer with a lot experience will tell you win98se is the best version for gaming and watching videos. if people tell you you need more, they have been tought by a sales person from a cheap mega-store ..

    [​IMG]
     
  6. chobochobo

    chobochobo Well-Known Member

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    Are you making that up in HK? I'm tempted by the 27" Imac, I saw it the other day, and it's very nice indeedy. It was setup in a shop, right next to the 24" that is my current machine and the monitor is an amazing improvement....
     
  7. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I was wondering if it was possible to get cheap parts in Hong Kong or the Mainland. Here in the US, there's Newegg and a ton of cheap internet retailers. Though of course most of the stuff is actually made in China to begin with.
     
  8. Ace Rimmer

    Ace Rimmer Well-Known Member

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    Intel i7 920
    X58 Mobo
    2x ATI HD 4870 1gb
    6gb DDR3


    Good choice on the CPU; the 920 is probably the best bang for the buck & rich upgrade path CPU in the Intel Core i5/i7 family right now. Also very cheap at $199. Caution: if you intend to overclock it most of the "skyscraper" type CPU coolers for the LGA1366 will be far too large for a microATX case.

    Instead of the 4870 series cards, have you considered going with the new HD 5870/5850/5770 cards? They are DX11 compatible (perfect complement to Windows 7) although no games are out yet with DX11.
     
  9. constant struggle

    constant struggle Well-Known Member

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    Windows 98SE is not good for gaming, it is unstable, and after a few days it needs a restart

    Windows XP is best to date
     
  10. GQgeek

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    This is my proposed build for a my PC. Gonna be gaming, watching movies, and blasting music.
    Aiming to put this all on a mATX and look for a smaller and clean designed case to place this in my living room. Rig is gonna be hooked up to my TV as well as a monitor

    Intel i7 920
    X58 Mobo
    2x ATI HD 4870 1gb
    6gb DDR3

    30gb OCZ SSD for loading OS & programs
    and some other HDD for my movies/music/photos & stuff


    How much power do you think this machine will need and does anyone have any case recommendations for me?


    Don't get an OCZ SSD, get the Intel X25-M. There is a huge difference in performance. It's also 80GB instead of 32, and can be had for a good price these days. Make sure you get the 34nm version as it's apparently seen significant improvements over the first gen devices (which are still better than ocz).
     
  11. coldarchon

    coldarchon Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  12. turboman808

    turboman808 Well-Known Member

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    Why build a computer at all?

    Just get a Popcorn Hour, Xbox360 or PS3. The new popcorn hours functions as a server as well so I have officially gotten rid of all the computers in my house.
     
  13. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Well-Known Member

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    Win 98 for gaming and media? You are kidding right? Win 98 will not play any recent games well, if at all. It will also not support any current hardware. It doesn't have codecs available for most modern digital media, and it will make you partition whatever the max storage space of FAT 32 was on most average HDD's today. So uh. why?
     
  14. Tokyo Slim

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    As to the OP... the HD 4800 series cards run loud and hot. I'd tell you to look at the previously mentioned 4770's they are nearly on par performance wise, about 15-25db quieter, and you might even be able to find some that will fit in a mATX case, which you will struggle to do with the 48XX series; as they usually are double wide cards. [​IMG]

    Also, trying to cram all that into a small case will be a real pain. You might consider a single card with passive cooling for that reason alone. If you must have a 48XX card, I'd recommend the HSI 4850 ICEQ. It comes in std and factory oc'ed versions and has a *relatively* quiet fan that works better to dissipate heat than most other 4800 series cards I've seen.
     
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    Win98SE for modern gaming and videos? You HAVE to be kidding me. Most of the hardware proposed seems pretty on point, however I'd caution against an SLI or Crossfire configuration in an mATX format/case. Heat and noise would create a BIG issue. I have an overclocked e8400 (to 3.8ghz prime stable) cooled by a Scythe Mini Ninja on an Asus P5E-VM HDMI, 8800gts (512mb), two 500gb hard drives, 4gb OCZ OC'd ram, and a higher end modular Thermaltake PSU. All of this is inside a Lian Li PC-V350 and looks remarkably similar to this setup: [​IMG] I built this system about 1.5 years ago and it still takes names with pretty much anything I throw at it. It's fairly cool, CPU sometimes creeps up to around 50C and the 8800gts hovers around 56C in intense gaming. The fans ramp up a little during gaming so it gets a little noisy, but nothing you can't easily drown out with your headset or speakers. Fans can be replaced with quieter versions as very easily as well so it will be nearly silent when doing every day browsing etc. I haven't kept up with the BLEEDING edge hardware lately but from what I can see, the ATI and Nvidia have been coming up with some great stuff. The ATi 5850 might be best bang for buck around at the moment (and small enough for mATX). Not sure how I feel about passive cooling for high end video cards in small enclosures...my buddy but one in a Shuttle back in college and he had nothing but issues with the card getting too hot. However those Shuttles had AWFUL cooling on their own...
     
  17. Flambeur

    Flambeur Well-Known Member

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    why build a computer if it's just for media and gaming? get a console then. there's no combination in computer parts that will provide the performance of a 7th generation console. and if you still want to use a computer, you will very soon find out less is more. you will laugh on this, but every serious gamer with a lot experience will tell you win98se is the best version for gaming and watching videos. if people tell you you need more, they have been tought by a sales person from a cheap mega-store ..
    Are you really really really that stupid, or just trolling really hard? I'm not saying that consoles aren't cool, but the rest of this is just absolutely retarded. Win98SE? Jesus fuck....
     
  18. Tokyo Slim

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    Maybe the reason he doesn't think that a dedicated gaming/media computer can outperform a console is because he refuses to upgrade from Win 98... [​IMG]

    Fwiw sports games are better on console, shooters and strategy games are way better on a PC. I don't have enough experience with MMORPG's and etc to say for sure, but I'd bet they were easier with more dedicated hotbuttons and a mouse.
     
  19. coldarchon

    coldarchon Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the reason he doesn't think that a dedicated gaming/media computer can outperform a console is because he refuses to upgrade from Win 98...
    maybe because I got 25 years of computer experience in almost every genre. maybe because even today high end music studios use amiga os. maybe because I know 99% of the above mentioned 3.8ghz computer's cpu is doing nothing even when your cpu usage is said to be 100%. maybe because I know the difference between a risc and a cisc. maybe because I know the difference between win98 and win98SE. maybe because win98SE has more drivers, codecs and informative ressources than vista and win7 together even in the next 2 years. maybe because I know that bloated systems cause more laggs in internet games and less compatibilities in movies than a dedicated console can provide. maybe because I know the consumption of electricity will be three times higher when you take a bloated computer not a console. maybe because I AM a gamer and cineaste, not someone who buys this stuff as a status symbol that never gets used when no one is there to admire it ..
     
  20. TheFusilliJerry

    TheFusilliJerry Well-Known Member

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    maybe you use the word maybe too much.
     

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