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Brown suede brogues

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ambulance Chaser, Jan 4, 2005.

  1. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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    I was all set to pull the trigger on this pair of brown suede brogues, but made the mistake of trying them on while wearing a charcoal suit. Â It looked completely . . . wrong. Â Do any of you wear these shoes with dark suits, or should they be limited to light suits and sportscoats/slacks combos?
     
  2. Manton

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    I would not hesitate to wear those shoes with a charcoal suit. I wear my suede shoes with dark suits all the time.

    I would not wear captoes with odd jackets, however. To me, they are strictly "suit shoes."
     
  3. JohnMS

    JohnMS Well-Known Member

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    Before joining this forum I wouldn't have considered the brown suede shoe with any form of gray. However, recently I saw Matt Lauer wearing brown suede monks with his gray pinstripes and also saw someone in person wearing a similar outfit, but with brown suede wingtips. I'll have to say, it looked great.
     
  4. Ed13

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    I think the shoes would look fine with a charcoal suit. I disagree with Manton and would wear them with an odd jacket also. I think captoes with a medallion pattern on the toe make the shoe just casual enough to be OK with an odd jacket. Nice shoes.
     
  5. STYLESTUDENT

    STYLESTUDENT Well-Known Member

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    Flusser writes about the ability to dress the navy blazer up or down including french cuffs. Because I wear blazers all the time and have french-cuffed shirts that would be otherwise unused, I naturally agree with him (authority is where you find it).

    Right now I'm wearing a double-breasted navy blazer, a french-cuffed and spread-collar end-on-end shirt, gray flannels, and black medallion captoes. Hence I for one would wear these brown suede captoes with a more formal blazer outfit, but certainly not with a casual sportjacket (a houndstooth or glen plaid) or even a button-down shirt.  Is there a real difference in formality between, say, a gray flannel suit and a dressed-up blazer?
     
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    Absolutely there's a difference. As long as we're discussing authority, Flusser (I believe) and Roetzel (definitely) call the blazer a purely casual, weekend look. I love a blazer with jeans, but would be more likely to wear the suede cap-toes with the gray flannel suit.

    Tom
     
  7. AlanC

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    I wouldn't think the blazer is strictly a casual weekend look at all. While more informal than (most) suits, the blazer as worn by STYLESTUDENT today would be considered almost as formal as a suit. And since we're throwing around authorities, I believer I am in agreement (or vice versa [​IMG] ) with Bruce Boyer in Elegance. I would--and do--wear captoes with blazers especially if there are medallions/brogueing involved (quarter or half brogues) or, perhaps, bluchers.
     
  8. Roy

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    I would never wear brogues under a suit.
     
  9. AlanC

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    While understanding their 'country' roots, I would think that the full brogue (aka, wingtip) in black or cordovan is the quintessential American business shoe. These cordovan Aldens from Brooks, for example: [​IMG]
     
  10. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Well-Known Member

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    I wear chocolate brown suede wingtips, pictured here all the time with suits. Charcoal grey, light grey, navy, odd flannel trousers.... You name it. If you don't like it, sue me. [​IMG] If I didn't already have the Yankos in the picture, I would buy those C&Js from Brooks without hesitation. I believe Flusser referred to the brown suede perf'ed cap toe as something like "the most elegant in-town shoe." Now, if those are a lighter, yellowy color of brown (tobacco suede) you may not be able to pair them with the full range of suit options. Sometimes it's tough to tell from pictures, but I think those look reasonably dark. Montecristo
     
  11. NoVaguy

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    Strange.  I occasionally wear black wingtips or black perf'd/medallion bluchers with a suit (an AE Chester or AE Lexington).

    I think it depends on where you are - wingtips are usually considered "business" shoes in the States.  

    My co-workers considered me to be quite "serious" when I did the blue pinstriped suit with wingtips look at work once.  (I had lawyers coming in).  Of course, the unofficial dress code at my office is jeans/khakis and a short sleeve polo shirt/button down shirt.

    I do plan to get a suede brogue/wingtip, though. I think it'll look more elegant.

    For those that do wear suede with a suit, do you wear a brown leather belt or brown suede belt? Or just suspenders (braces).
     
  12. montecristo#4

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    Brown leather. Lizard or alligator is nice.
     
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    I think a grey flannel suit -- lighter than charc. darker than a lighter shade of Cambridge grey. Also Navy suit and navy with white chalk (my favorite and the reason I bought my pair of suedo cap toe medallion bals) I've even worn them with a lighter weight (10-11oz) J Press suit of medium grey color. I like the look. Didn't Windsor employ them often?
     
  14. chorse123

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    Beautiful shoes. Do you know who makes them? Go on and pull the trigger. I think suede brogues are quite elegant.
     
  15. johnw86

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    What to wear with brown, suede brogues? Red cords, of course... [​IMG]
     
  16. Giona Granata

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    - light or mid grey suit
    - blazer with grey / white trousers
    - white / off white suit

    And I won't put black shoes with a blazer; but that's me.
     
  17. Roy

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    (Roy @ 04 Jan. 2005, 7:24) I would never wear brogues under a suit.
    I think it depends on where you are - wingtips are usually considered "business" shoes in the States.
    I've noticed that before on this board [​IMG] I know that quite a lot of Europeans think brogues do not belong under suit. But then again, Italians pretty much only wear brown whereas the English prefer black. It's all about national/regional preference I think.
     
  18. STYLESTUDENT

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    Why not a brown suede belt?
     
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    Fabienne Well-Known Member

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    (NoVaguy @ 05 Jan. 2005, 02:56)
    I would never wear brogues under a suit.
    I think it depends on where you are - wingtips are usually considered "business" shoes in the States.
    I've noticed that before on this board [​IMG] I know that quite a lot of Europeans think brogues do not belong under suit. But then again, Italians pretty much only wear brown whereas the English prefer black. It's all about national/regional preference I think.
    I picture this novice SFer reading advice meant for Italy and applying it in America...
     
  20. Giona Granata

    Giona Granata Well-Known Member

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    (Roy @ 05 Jan. 2005, 10:38)
    I would never wear brogues under a suit.
    I think it depends on where you are - wingtips are usually considered "business" shoes in the States.

    I've noticed that before on this board [​IMG] I know that quite a lot of Europeans think brogues do not belong under suit. But then again, Italians pretty much only wear brown whereas the English prefer black. It's all about national/regional preference I think.
    I picture this novice SFer reading advice meant for Italy and applying it in America...
    Oh, that is just intended in helping Americans to dress better ... [​IMG]
     

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