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British messenger bag

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kolecho, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. kolecho

    kolecho Well-Known Member

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    I am interested in this design from Swaine Adeney Brigg. Â D&H also makes a similar one. Â Schlesinger makes something like this but not quite the same IMHO. Â Does anyone know of any American companies that make this design? [​IMG]
     
  2. Horace

    Horace Well-Known Member

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    Lost all my bookmarks, but Hartmann had something similar.

    I'd like to see the Daines & H in person, I like it and I like the Pickett.
    Both expensive, but may be worth it, since you won't need another.

    I have on liek the Atlas, and its lasts, but I'd like to find another more slim.

    Custom hides has one called 1945 US Army case -- but I've asked them about some details and didn't like what I heard -- they appear a little ignorant of some of the details. Or perhap sit was a language problem.
     
  3. kolecho

    kolecho Well-Known Member

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    I checked Hartmann and Custom Hide. Hartmann don't make anything in that design now. Custom Hide has several similar designs, but I wonder about their quality. Anyone has experience with Custom Hide?
     
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    Bic Pentameter Well-Known Member

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    kolecho

    I think that Filson's field satchel is pretty close.


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  5. Horace

    Horace Well-Known Member

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    'Bic: forgot about Filson -- they may indeed be the best bet -- but still not quite -- a bit too big perhaps and bulky. Kind of like Alden v. Ed Green. (Though I happen to be a fan of the big, bulky substantial look when it comes to shoes and sometimes, cases.
     
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    Bic Pentameter Well-Known Member

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    It isn't clear to me why kolecho wants one from an American company.  If the issue is price, Filson's satchel goes for around $600 today.  As far as I know, they are still made in America.  (If you visit their retail shop in Seattle, you can look onto the factory floor.)

    I have the field satchel, and it has softened up quite a bit.  The leather may be softer and more supple than the Swaine Adeney Brigg cases I have seen at my local department store.  I think Filson leather comes in only one color though.

    Bic
     
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    I don't know either, but I would suspect it has something to do with the brutal exchange rate.

    I very much want one of those bags myself.
     
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  10. kolecho

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    Thanks for your response, Bic. I'd like to get something that is of decent value and quality that will last me a long time to come. How would you compare your Filson satchel to say D&H or SAB in terms of quality of leather and construction?
     
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    The Filson satchel is just an 1/2 inch higher than the SAB and D&H versions. The width and thickness are similar. If I could get a D&H off-the-shelf (apparently Classicluggage has no existing stock), I would rather go for a D&H as it is not that much dearer than Filson. SAB is another story altogether [​IMG] 9
     
  12. Bic Pentameter

    Bic Pentameter Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, I have only seen D&H and SAB in stores, and because there has always been a pesky sales clerk around, so I haven't been able to examine either too closely.

    Filson's satchel isn't lined, and it has a primitive leather pocket inside the bag so it has an unfinished look to it. (I would guess that D&H and SAB might be lined in cloth or pigskin.)

    The Filson leather is 3 mm thick. I imagine will last forever. I bought my Filson in 1993, and although it sat in my closet for 5 years, I've used it daily since 2000. Because I carry it with the shoulder strap, and occasionally tuck my laptop into it, the stitching on the leather that affixes the D-rings to the bag has come undone twice. Filson has stitched it right up for me free of charge.

    The Filson satchel comes in only dark brown color, so it won't develop the patina that a chestnut colored bag would. Occasionally, they come up new on ebay.

    Bic
     
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    It might be worth giving ClassicLuggage a call. When I ordered my Brigg umbrella in January, I was chatting about this SAB bag. They said that they are having trouble sourcing the D&H version, but are working with a Scotland-based manufacturer that may be able to provide a more steady supply. Unfortunately, I don't recall the name.
     
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    My SAB isn't lined either. And yeah, it's that model. Try ukstuff for Papworth as well. Pickett Fine Leather makes a similar version.
     
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    Have you looked at Levenger's? I don't know who makes their bags, but they appear to be of decent quality.
     
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    My first post. Filson stuff is of high quality and almost indestructible, although a certain amount of refinement is forfeited when something is manufactured to bombproof standards. Just a note if you're thinking about the Filson - apparently the company is in the process of being purchased by RL - I don't know what this means in terms of future quality - but a small retailer here in NYC told me that RL plans to make some changes (non-usa manufacturing?), and the demogaphic they'll be targeting will be country gentleman, most likely at the expense of their former customer base, i.e true outdoorsmen.
     
  18. kolecho

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    It is so sad that quality suffers in the name of big business. I guess the same thing happened to Church's after it was taken over by Prada.
     
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    This is horrible.
     

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