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BMW vs. Lexus vs. Mercedes maintenance costs

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by dah328, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. rocks

    rocks Well-Known Member

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    Bullocks! I drive a 2003 e46 which now has 116k miles and runs just like new. So far this year, I have changed 2 window regulators, 100 bucks a piece from my discount parts hook up. The expansion tank also failed a few months ago. So far this year, I have spent about 500 on maintenance parts which also include oil changes. I do oil changes every 7500-8000 miles interval. Diff and Gearbox flush every 30 k miles and this car has never left me stranded. I don't pay for labor though since I do some of the work myself or have a buddy do the strenuous tasks for me. I drive this car in a spirited manner almost everyday. It is by far the most reliable car I have ever owned, my AC is freezing cold despite what the poster above said. I have made countless trips between Miami and Atlanta without a single problem and consuming 1.5 tanks of fuel along the way. This is my third BMW and I am sold, it has been as reliable as any Toyota Corolla.
     
  2. vitaminc

    vitaminc Well-Known Member

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    Bullocks! I drive a 2003 e46 which now has 116k miles and runs just like new. So far this year, I have changed 2 window regulators, 100 bucks a piece from my discount parts hook up. The expansion tank also failed a few months ago. So far this year, I have spent about 500 on maintenance parts which also include oil changes. I do oil changes every 7500-8000 miles interval. Diff and Gearbox flush every 30 k miles and this car has never left me stranded. I don't pay for labor though since I do some of the work myself or have a buddy do the strenuous tasks for me. I drive this car in a spirited manner almost everyday. It is by far the most reliable car I have ever owned, my AC is freezing cold despite what the poster above said. I have made countless trips between Miami and Atlanta without a single problem and consuming 1.5 tanks of fuel along the way. This is my third BMW and I am sold, it has been as reliable as any Toyota Corolla.

    eh what? toyota corolla costs next to nothing to maintain compare to bimmers... hell all the jp cars i've owned costs nothing to maintain...
     
  3. zippyh

    zippyh Well-Known Member

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    A 3er BMW or even some 5ers are great fun to drive, but they will cost more to operate than the Lexus. Window regulators are a common failure. They CAN be DIYed if you are pretty handy and don't mind the pain-in-the-ass factor, but it is a Titanic pain in the ass. BMWs are VERY sensitive to wear in front suspension components (bushings and such) and the car will feel progressively "sloppy" as those components wear. Certain model years (I forget which) of 3er have rear subframe mounts prone to failure. All BMWs typically have sub-par climate control - one thing about American cars is they have A/C that will freeze your ass out of the car. Not so with the Germans.

    Good luck!

    -Matt in Atlanta


    That would be both the E46 and E36. In other words, both of the previous generation 3 series.

    Many BMW climate control issues can be traced to the final stage resistor going bad.
    It's a pretty straightforward DIY if your hands are tiny enough.
     
  4. East2West

    East2West Well-Known Member

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    Repairs (most out of warranty) to my W211 e350:
    SBC brake pump
    airmatic shock
    Thrust arm
    Left and right lower control arms
    Left and right cat converters (covered by 8/80 EPA law)
    Distronic malfunction
    panoramic roof creaking
    COMAND/navigation malfunction (wasn't syncing properly with my MFD)
    Crank position sensor
    Door lock actuator

    These are all common problems with the early 2003 to early06 w211s)

    Oh and my cupholder that opened like Voltron
     
  5. akatsuki

    akatsuki Well-Known Member

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    Repairs (most out of warranty) to my W211 e350:
    SBC brake pump
    airmatic shock
    Thrust arm
    Left and right lower control arms
    Left and right cat converters (covered by 8/80 EPA law)
    Distronic malfunction
    panoramic roof creaking
    COMAND/navigation malfunction (wasn't syncing properly with my MFD)
    Crank position sensor
    Door lock actuator

    These are all common problems with the early 2003 to early06 w211s)

    Oh and my cupholder that opened like Voltron


    Yeah, supposedly they have turned the corner in 2008, but it will take time to see if that is really the case.
     
  6. mrhills0146

    mrhills0146 Well-Known Member

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    Repairs (most out of warranty) to my W211 e350:
    SBC brake pump
    airmatic shock
    Thrust arm
    Left and right lower control arms
    Left and right cat converters (covered by 8/80 EPA law)
    Distronic malfunction
    panoramic roof creaking
    COMAND/navigation malfunction (wasn't syncing properly with my MFD)
    Crank position sensor
    Door lock actuator

    These are all common problems with the early 2003 to early06 w211s)

    Oh and my cupholder that opened like Voltron


    That is fucking ridiculous. I hope your local dealer took good care of you on these issues. Until I see proof that MB has turned the corner, I've sworn off their newer models.

    When Mercedes decided they had to match the Japanese gadget for gadget, gizmo for gizmo, that's when the issues started. I don't want gadgets and gizmos. I want a simple, robust, vehicle built with the best materials and assembled with the greatest care. I want a car that will last for 25 years and 400K miles. I want a car where damned near every part can be repaired or rebuilt.

    In short, I want a modern version of the W123, W124, or W126. But there aren't many people out there like me. [​IMG]
     
  7. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    In short, I want a modern version of the W123, W124, or W126. But there aren't many people out there like me. [​IMG]
    I'd like this, too.
     
  8. countrygent

    countrygent Well-Known Member

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    When Mercedes decided they had to match the Japanese gadget for gadget, gizmo for gizmo, that's when the issues started. I don't want gadgets and gizmos. I want a simple, robust, vehicle built with the best materials and assembled with the greatest care. I want a car that will last for 25 years and 400K miles. I want a car where damned near every part can be repaired or rebuilt.

    In short, I want a modern version of the W123, W124, or W126. But there aren't many people out there like me. [​IMG]


    +10000

    A modern W124 is exactly what I want - no gizmos just for the sake of gizmos, just a bank-vault solid car.
     
  9. Spats

    Spats Well-Known Member

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    Do you want sex, or reliability? NO European made car will be anywhere near as inexpensive to maintain over a long time (like after the new car warranty wears off) as virtually any Japanese or US made car. You pays your money and you takes your choice. [​IMG]
     
  10. uhurit

    uhurit Well-Known Member

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    Bullocks! I drive a 2003 e46 which now has 116k miles and runs just like new. So far this year, I have changed 2 window regulators, 100 bucks a piece from my discount parts hook up. The expansion tank also failed a few months ago. So far this year, I have spent about 500 on maintenance parts which also include oil changes. I do oil changes every 7500-8000 miles interval. Diff and Gearbox flush every 30 k miles and this car has never left me stranded. I don't pay for labor though since I do some of the work myself or have a buddy do the strenuous tasks for me. I drive this car in a spirited manner almost everyday. It is by far the most reliable car I have ever owned, my AC is freezing cold despite what the poster above said. I have made countless trips between Miami and Atlanta without a single problem and consuming 1.5 tanks of fuel along the way. This is my third BMW and I am sold, it has been as reliable as any Toyota Corolla.


    You just got lucky with this one. One cannot extrapolate a singular experience on the entire brand
     
  11. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    Do you want sex, or reliability? NO European made car will be anywhere near as inexpensive to maintain over a long time (like after the new car warranty wears off) as virtually any Japanese or US made car. You pays your money and you takes your choice. [​IMG]
    True, but the cars are addictive.... I keep returning to them. [​IMG]
     

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