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Barbour Bedale or Beaufort

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by sunman42000, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. sunman42000

    sunman42000 Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys,
    I'm gearing up to make a purchase of my first Barbour. I want it to be a jacket I can wear everyday, and possibly through part of winter with the waistcoat liner. However, after trying on both the Bedale and Beaufort, I'm still unable to make up my mind. If you had to pick one or the other, which would it be - why? For reference, I'm a younger guy (27), wear Ralph Lauren and the like daily (oxford, tie, chinos, boat shoes/RL Darlton Marlow)

    thanks guys
     
  2. bigbris1

    bigbris1 Well-Known Member

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    I wanted the Bedale but I'm too tall for it so I opted for the Beaufort.
     
  3. foodguy

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    a related question: I live in Southern California, where it sometimes rains but rarely gets below 50 degrees. would either of these jackets be appropriate for rain gear? removable lining or something?
     
  4. sunman42000

    sunman42000 Well-Known Member

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    ^ There's no removeable lining. However, Barbour does make a raincoat
     
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    I bought the bedale for use mostly in town, because I find its shorter length slightly more flattering and a little less countrified and its elasticated cuffs more comfortable than the cuffs on the beaufort. It is still a perfectly practical bit of country wear, but the beaufort is better for this as the longer length keeps more of you dry and it has a game pocket so it is better for shooting etc. That said the game pocket is pretty handy in town when doing a light shop up at the supermarket.
    Which one is better depends what you want out of it.
     
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    a related question: I live in Southern California, where it sometimes rains but rarely gets below 50 degrees. would either of these jackets be appropriate for rain gear? removable lining or something?

    Even without lining the waxed ones might be a little warm wearing, try one and see. They do however make jackets in similar styles that are waterproof and designed for summer use, so one of them might work for you.


    ^ There's no removable lining. However, Barbour does make a raincoat

    You buy the lining, a padded or fleece waistcoat, separately for most of their jackets.
     
  7. PhiloVance

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    I have both. I like the Bedale better for wearing with khakis, business casual. Its not as long and I have it in 42 which is my regular size. It is fine for rain due to the wax. Temperature wise, you can probably wear the barbours anywhere from about 40-55 degrees fahrenheit. with perhaps a pullover merino wool sweater over your dress shirt and feel comfortable. The Beaufort is a bit longer so I prefer to wear it with blazers or suits. I know some people get bent out of shape because it doesnt completely cover the blazer/suit jacket, but I dont mind. The Border is just too long in my opinion. I went up a size to 44 for the Beaufort. It fits perfectly with the fur lining, is a bit loose without it, but again is perfectly sized for wear with a blazer/suit jacket. I have worn the Beaufort all winter long with the lining. Very warm.

    Bottom line: if you dont wear a suit or blazer much, I'd go with the bedale, true to size. If you want it to cover your suit jacket/blazer, try the beaufort one size up.
     
  8. sunman42000

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    ^ With the liner and a sweater underneath, what temp do you think the Bedale is good for? Wondering if it could be used for most of a Chicago winter (aside from the insane days of -10 degrees F).
     
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    I think I wore the Beaufort through most of last winter with the lining, gloves and a scarf and it was generally fine. Where you tend to feel the cold more is in the sleeves where there's no lining. I'm not sure if it gets much colder in Chicago than NYC - I generally wore the Barbour until it got down below the 30s. Then I went with a bear parka, northface, etc.
     
  10. bigbris1

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    a related question: I live in Southern California, where it sometimes rains but rarely gets below 50 degrees. would either of these jackets be appropriate for rain gear? removable lining or something?

    I've got this one: Lightweight (Summer) Beaufort. It's awesome but not for the skinny.

    [​IMG]

    I've got this one for when temps drop:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. forex

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    Big,what is the name of the second jacket?
     
  12. bigbris1

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    They call it the Quail Hunting Jacket but YMMV because I never hunt quail [​IMG]

    Click the pic to take you to more info. I got both of mine on STP for ~$135 each stacking coupons.
     
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    They call it the Quail Hunting Jacket but YMMV because I never hunt quail [​IMG]

    Click the pic to take you to more info. I got both of mine on STP for ~$135 each stacking coupons.


    Great, thanks. I've been looking for something like this. Does it run slim? I am 40R,should I get Medium or Large?
     
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    I've got this one: Lightweight (Summer) Beaufort. It's awesome but not for the skinny.

    [​IMG]


    cool! love that jacket. and just my luck! i'm not skinny.
     
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    foodguy Well-Known Member

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    for anyone who is interested in those summer beauforts, there is a pretty good price on them on Sierra Trading Post right now. Sadly, in Large and Medium, color choice is very limited. But still ... less than $200.
     
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    Great, thanks. I've been looking for something like this. Does it run slim? I am 40R,should I get Medium or Large?

    I'm not sure if I got the XL or the XXL, but I would say to try to make an educated guess using their sizing chart. It does run slimmer than the Beaufort and isn't lined so it can get sticky sliding it on and off.
     
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    I'm not sure if I got the XL or the XXL, but I would say to try to make an educated guess using their sizing chart. It does run slimmer than the Beaufort and isn't lined so it can get sticky sliding it on and off.


    Well,size chart says that Mediums are 38-40,I am planning to wear it with a sweater so I am not sure if I should go with M or L,maybe get both and return one of them just to be on the safe side.
     
  18. sunman42000

    sunman42000 Well-Known Member

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    alright back on topic men...which would you choose
     
  19. Biker30x

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    Beaufort. Slightly longer, allows you to wear a jacket under it without it peaking out the bottom. I've had mine for a few years now. Until it's cooler than 50 degrees, it can be uncomfortable, even unzipped those coats don't breath. With the quilted vest liner and a suitcoat or tweed jacket underneath, it's comfortable down into the mid-20s. With a thick shirt & a really good sweater, it's good a little lower. If you're in Chicago, I am wearing mine today unlined with a suit and am very comfortable (it's around 45 & rainy).

    It's warm because it holds the heat in, but you have to have a good insulating layer or a breeze cools the fabric which cools you. Don't wear it to shovel snow, you'll soak through from the inside. It may be thorn-proof, but it's only water resistant - I went around the block this morning walking dogs in a steady light rain and stayed dry, but a prolonged downpour will soak through. It's my 3rd waxed canvas coat & it's the first without much smell or oil transfer.

    It's a great coat you won't regret in either length, I just found the longer beaufort slightly more flexible wardrobe-wise.

    If you buy it from a full-service Barbour dealer (like Orvis), every few years take it to them in the summer & it gets sent back to Barbour for re-waxing for a small fee (I think $20 or $30).
     
  20. zalb916

    zalb916 Well-Known Member

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    Those Barbours on stp are not first quality items. They are made in Bulgaria and some other countries and are not the same quality as the made in England items.
     

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