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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Well-Known Member

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    I was their from 1998 when I was 18 to 2003.
     
  2. Manuhiri

    Manuhiri Well-Known Member

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    Just to follow up on this. Once you've agreed on your shoes the guys at Meermin send you a paypal invoice by email. They then send you another email telling you when they expect to ship and then finally a TNT shipment notification when the package is on its way.

    My Meermins are still very stiff but as they've only had five wears or so I'm giving them a bit longer before deciding whether to make another purchase.
     
  3. Simon at Elite

    Simon at Elite Well-Known Member

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    My first question is why would you take a great fabric like Dormeuil and then half canvas it? You say it's not coming out of China or Thailand then I ask where is it made. Certainly not Australia. You can't make a half canvas suit out of Dormeuil at Australian labour rates for $500 much less sell it at that price. I have a lot of tailoring connections in Asia and couldn't have it made to sell at that price there.

    there are plenty of online tailoring services in Australia where you can buy MTM suits for well under $300 .Looking at my profile might be a starting point
     
  4. AriGold

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    Yeah it is quite a nice jacket. i picked it up at half price which makes it a bit better value at $500, but i still wouldn't call it a steal.
     
  5. Naka

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    :spam:

    EDIT: Also, as enthusiastic as you are about your product, I find your website confusing to navigate and there isn't much too information regarding where the fabrics are milled, excluding the Taylor & Lodge category.
     
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  6. lennier

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    Yet more evidence of the sense of entitlement that exists both in Australian society as a whole and most particularly in traditional retail.
     
  7. Simon at Elite

    Simon at Elite Well-Known Member

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    Spam??? Oh come on that's a tad unfair. I was commenting on a thread and someone asked me a question about buying a reasonably priced suit. Where do you think I was going to suggest? At least I tried to be somewhat discreet about it rather than blatantly posting links I gave him a gentle nudge to where he could find what he asked for. Nor did I post any text about the site or the available suits. So Spam? Perhaps but only by the broadest definition.

    In reply to your comments. I do agree with you about the navigation. Yep the site is crap but we're working on both making it easier to get around in and also preparing a new more presentable one as we are about to go hard on the business suit market. What I do disagree with is your suggestion about the fabric origin. I don't think anyone thinks they are going to get an overly high quality fabric in a $300 suit. However, we do say where the bulk wool was milled before being sent to China for dying as well as making perfectly clear how the suit is manufactured and in many cases giving the option of fused or paying a little more for a full canvas.

    This was my point in my original post. It's difficult to determine the differences between suits as few sites really give you any information. Go to just about any site and try to find out how their suits are canvassed. Only a few will tell you and the reason is that the vast majority are fused and made as cheaply as possible in one of the many Asian suit factories. I don't have any problem with that but I do think that a customer should have a better idea of what they're purchasing. I also hold a personal opinion that anything more than $500 for a fused factory made suit is extortion when I know a number of sources where I can land one in Australia for under $100 and although I don't buy from therm you can be sure others do.

    In the more expensive suits the wool is almost exclusively Australian Merino. We have been making some suits for the execs at Woolmark and in return they have been giving us valuable advice on sourcing quality fabric. It's an alliance we are careful to maintain so it's Australian Merino practically all the way. Again we disclose where the raw wool is processed so I find it a little difficult to understand your reply.

    Yes I know I'm going to be accused of more spam but give me a break. I am replying to another member and while I do talk about our suits I think this post is mostly general opinion in nature. No names or links guys and agreeing that the site is crap has to make me the worst spammer in history
     
  8. blahman

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    The Joe Black suits are made in NZ. And your site is indeed pretty awful in design. The structure and tone on it can be very off putting. Your site is what your potential customers can see and it will impact on their impression of your business and your products and you too.
     
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  9. xiaoli

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    Dropped by MJ Bale to check out the Wood Dobby jacket. Which was totally different from the photos online. Apparently they all have flap pockets rather than the patch pockets shown in their online store.

    Didn't get anything in the end. My search for the perfect blue blazer continues.
     
  10. The Ernesto

    The Ernesto Well-Known Member

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    It's true rents are ridiculous, but Australian retail has been ripping people off for decades and now it's biting them on the arse.

    Have a read of this...

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/david-jones-forced-to-walk-a-new-path-20120323-1vp6l.html

    In particular:

    In international retailing circles, Australia is often referred to as ''Treasure Island'', where the prices at which we mug punters buy goods are far higher than those in most of the rest of the world. And this is why ''price harmonisation'' is the term our retailers hate to hear.

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    As one retail investor concisely summed it up: ''The insider trading on retail pricing is dead. Thanks to the internet, consumers have all the pricing information.'' The profit gross margin in Australia on discretionary goods now runs at between 15 and 50 per cent. Experts say this simply cannot last.
     
  11. Windowpane1967

    Windowpane1967 Well-Known Member

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    Thats a shame Blahman, am all for well tailored, beautiful cotton suits. Was talking with Vic the other day at Harrolds - he hasnt seen a cotton suit in there for years. Am going to talk with Patrick J next month about a couple of cotton suits, Gieves and Hawkes style suits, ie slightly heavier polished cotton, beautifully tailored. See what he can come up with.
     
  12. Windowpane1967

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    Nailed in one. You are exactly correct RM.
     
  13. Windowpane1967

    Windowpane1967 Well-Known Member

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    Ernesto - thanks for posting this. It sums it up very succinctly. Was interesting to see Bernie Brookes (Myer CEO) on Lateline or something yesterday admitting to these messages. People are better informed, they are sick of being ripped off and "it will take Myer several years to recover customer confidence". The fact that I see some of my colleagues here still willing to part with their hard earned cash on RL at $1000 for a jacket is bemusing to me to say the least. You guys have got to get smarter with your parting of coin. For that coin, you could get two jackets in the States, one in each colour. I fail to understand why there is still support for these retailers who unashamedly continue to treat the customer base here in AU as mugs. Even at $500, ie assuming they are offering you a 50% discount (from how I read the previous posts) their products are over priced, they still making huge margins because its rubbish they are selling. Compare RL in the States and you dont see the same rubbish in their stores, you see far better quality, better fabrics etc and they are still cheaper than what we are paying here. RemyMichel may be able to better comment on the Ownership structure of RL/Oroton/Witchery/MJ Bale etc here in AU. I understand they all come under the same licensing company, content with high margins on rubbish. As has been alluded to here already, thier days are numbered....Bernie Brookes can see the writing on the wall very clearly, shame for the DJs shareholders that Paul Zahra is completely ignorant to it and seems to be continuing to push high end labels from the bottom end of the quality scales at premium costs, and expects we are all a bit dumb to it.
     
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  14. Geoffrey Firmin

    Geoffrey Firmin Well-Known Member

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    Anyone ever bought Sanders shoes from the UK? If so any views on them, a Fine Pair of Shoes are having a sale and there is a pair I want http://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/collections/sanders-price-asc the Jude brown but only in a F sizing. My hoofs being in some cases borderline F/G I wonder if I could get a away with the F? Next step find a ruler and pray.
     
  15. limousine

    limousine Well-Known Member

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    I bought a pair of Sander's Judes from AFPOS a few months ago and I can't fault their service. Use the no VAT discount code that can be found on their website to save yourself a bit more. I can't comment on the width seeing as I have no problems there, but in terms of length they fit true.
     
  16. tobiasj

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    To play devil's advocate on the economics-of-retail thing for a second: it is a little unfair to compare prices in Australia with those in the US unreservedly. If you're selling 10x larger volumes you can afford to make less margin on each item. This logic doesn't apply to a lot of stuff though (digital downloads to pick an obvious example).
     
  17. Windowpane1967

    Windowpane1967 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, good point, volumes (economies of scale) have to have an impact, I agree. 280 million people vs 22 million (is that what we are here now??). Was interesting to see where the growth in jobs is heading and coming from. Alan Kohlers chart last evening - retail is slumping, healthcare rising dramatically, terrifying thought really.
     
  18. tobiasj

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    If you were to ask me to pick the next bubble I'd have a hard time choosing between education and healthcare...
     
  19. Pink Socks

    Pink Socks Well-Known Member

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    Chaps, I know this gets asked and answered every other week, but I did a quick search and hundreds of results came up. Can you well informed Melbourne SFers give me a quick recommendation for a good quality (and reasonably priced if possibly)/recommended Melbourne based tailor, preferably CBD or South East Inner City based but appreciate any advice.

    Bought a Boglioli linen glen check unlined coat from ebay (like this http://www.styleforum.net/t/297107/unstructured-boglioli-linen-sportcoat-52it-42r-grey-glen-plaid) and despite it being the same size as the other Boglioli coat I have (which fits perfectly), I think it could do with a few small alterations (might post photograph for advice if I am feeling brave/stupid), possibly sleeves shorten (they are functional though), and waist tapered a little more. Fits pretty well but think it could be better and for an OTR ebay buy happy to spend a little on alterations (though would want them done before I leave for Scotland a week on Wednesday).

    Any quick advice appreciated. Who do you chaps use/trust?
     
  20. FilsonGuy

    FilsonGuy Well-Known Member

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    Gentleman,

    I currently have a customer that wants to return a Filson NWT 70222-Tan Medium Duffle Bag to the US, and I though there might be someone in Australia that might be interested. The bag retails for $295USD and you wouldn’t have to pay any international shipping or customs fees. Please PM me if you are interested along with your best offer.

    Cheers,
    FilsonGuy
     
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