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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. fxh

    fxh Well-Known Member

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    It will cost you more to fly to Melb


    Now this is going in the Poolroom.
     
  2. suttonzach

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    Brooks Bros are ok - J Press is the quintessential preppy brand but its a lot more difficult to get basics such as OCBDs on sale, especially all the way over here in Aus.
     
  3. lachyzee

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    Last time I ordered, Brooks Brother's slimmest fit was still very tent-esque.
     
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    Food, food, food.... If you like yum cha while in Oz, you'll love the dim sum there... Of course, don't forget shopping... gadgets especially (always bargain for a better price). May be better to hire a cab for a few days instead of driving unless you want to tempt fate.
     
  5. fxh

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    I have to insert my usual nagging caveat in here.

    The LE Hyde Park must irons (and surprisingly a few non irons) were value for $$ plus a very good shirt - especially on one of their frequent 25% off everything sale, however about a year ago for no reason they started making the collars on the Hyde Park 1/2" shorter - thus destroying the value/charm/roll.

    As far as I know they haven't fixed this yet. The original trusted whistle blower was my good mate the much respected oxfordclothbuttondown blog bloke - you can see his shocking expose here and with a response from LE. http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/2012/03/lands-end-the-original-ocbd-the-hyde-park-ocbd/

    Also worth reading, because its better than most others you will stumble across, is his recent thoughts on proper ivy collar roll.
    http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/2013/07/collar-roll/

    If you want to understand a bit about true (under the radar) Ivy worn everyday - then OCBDs blog photos of his outfits is (are?) a purists delight.
     
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  6. fxh

    fxh Well-Known Member

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    Most USA "normal" fits are cough cough "generous" to say the least. Mind you a good OCBD should have a bit of bloom in the barrel and not be a skin tight fitted fashion shirt. As should all shirts - for men. Boys are different.
     
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    I can do either. Keen to catch people there.
     
  8. TehBunny

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    Pinky- Meermin's got 5 different suede belts which look great; I believe Jason bought one earlier, maybe he can weigh in on quality.
     
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  10. Henry Carter

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    Quality isn't all that great, they feel a bit flimsy, but they are fine for what they cost. I doubt the herringbone one is that much better for so much more money. You wouldn't do an order just for a belt off them though, the shipping is probably prohibitive without some shoes thrown in.
     
  11. Romp

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    Which Monday? They were off shooting a photoshoot today. In Sydney they do Mondays for special occassions


    Haha yeah thanks Nabil - was pretty happy to feature again, must have done something right... Wore one of the shackets to Bowral this weekend for the Suit Shop photoshoot. I know it's more SW&D but lets face it - weekend clothing.. 3Sixteen SL100x denim .. loving it (and soon to be the only Aussie stockist! )

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  12. fxh

    fxh Well-Known Member

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    Online business F Yeah I could do that - aren't they all fuzzy small caring startups from the bedroom desk and start from nothing but a good idea and a can of energy drink? - yes well thats the facile narrative swallowed by most media - but the truth - as always - is a little different.
    Read about Iconic

    The Iconic is still being hailed as a revolutionary online retailer success story. But its books are in a bad way, with estimates of a $45 million hole the company may not get out of.

    The slow collapse of online retailer The Iconic is a bit like watching a drug addict spiral into eventual destruction. Everyone knows it’s going to happen, it’s just a question of when the body will be carried out.

    Last week, the struggling dot.com announced it had raised $28 million from family-owned Belgian investment company Verlinvest. But like almost everything that emanates from The Iconic, the latest round was one part smoke, two parts mirrors. Verlinvest chairman Frederic de Mevius was typically ebullient, stating:

    “The Iconic management team has done an exceptional job of growing the company during the past year, and we are happy to be investing in this great success story.”

    The truth appears almost the exact opposite, despite the repeated claims of The Iconic’s “founder” Adam Jacobs (like all executives in Rocket Internet-led companies, Jacobs didn’t found The Iconic any more than I founded Facebook — he was simply appointed by Rocket and handed a sliver of equity and a relative small salary to try to grow a successful business). Crikey can reveal The Iconic has lost a jaw-dropping $45 million in around 17 months of operation — even more concerning given the entire business only generated $31 million in top-line sales.

    Staffing costs were $20 million, while more than $1.2 million was lost on stock obsolesce and $5 million on “administration expenses” (they must be using gold-plated paper clips down at Surry Hills). The main asset on The Iconic’s balance sheet is tax losses of more than $13 million, which sits alongside $8.2 million in inventory.

    The reality of The Iconic’s position contrasts with the cheery public pronouncements of Jacobs, who told TechCrunch earlier this week that the business was:

    “… seeing strong growth in the Australian market and are targeting a much faster time frame — the customer response to The Iconic brand and experience has been far stronger we would have imagined. So we are now focused on sustainable growth and are tracking well to our long-term goals.”

    Iconic insiders seem to disagree, commenting on TechCrunch:

    “The [Iconic] is built on smoke and mirrors. The metrics they release are forged. The visitors. The growth, everything. They don’t have 500 brands. They have under 100 brands. They don’t have [45,000] products. They have under [10,000]. The ‘co-founders’ aren’t founders, they’re employees [with] fancy titles. The money raised was for Rocket not Iconic. The place is a sham. And the guys running it are clueless.”

    The last point is especially percipient. Six months ago this columnist was suspicious of The Iconic’s claims and undertook company searches to try to determine the respective shareholders of participants in its first two capital raisings (The Iconic reportedly raised $20 million from JP Morgan last year and another $26 million from Summit in January this year). The problem? ASIC company searches reveal the only shareholder of The Iconic is a Rocket holding company based out of Germany. The funds allegedly raised from Summit, JP Morgan and this week Verlinves, were not invested directly in The Iconic but handed to the Rocket mothership in Germany.

    Cynics would suggest Rocket has raised funds from investors and handed a small amount to The Iconic, using those cap raisings to create some sort of faux market value for the terminal business. It would be difficult to imagine any investor foolish enough to place funds in The Iconic on any sort of valuation given its massive losses and management foibles.

    Meanwhile, the overly bullish public comments continue in earnest. Ever since Alan Kohler’s first glowing article on The Iconic in June last year (which seems like it was ghost written by a PR firm), Jacobs and his fellow “founders” have clung to the claim the website has 150,000 unique visitors daily (4.5 million monthly). Various news outlets have repeated those dubious statements. The reality is that a Nielsen search reveals that The Iconic is generating around 700,000 unique browsers monthly (a volume that matches its relatively tepid Alexa ranking of 258) — a fraction of the figures claimed by The Iconic (not to mention the fact figures are boosted by paid affiliate searches, which contribute virtually nothing to revenue).

    As of December 2012, it’s understood The Iconic was down to its last $1 million in the bank. Emergency funding from Rocket has kept the doors open since then, but with Rocket boss Oliver Samwer believed to be in Sydney last week for crisis talks, they may not stay open for long.

    *Disclosure: Adam Schwab is the managing director of the AussieCommerce Group, parent of online retailers including Cudo and Deals.com.au

    FROM:: http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/07/12/an-iconic-loss-45m-down-online-retailer-spirals-out-of-control/
     
  13. lachyzee

    lachyzee Well-Known Member

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    Can't wait for Crikey's expose on HC, O&J and SS.
     
  14. Journeyman

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    FXH, that is interesting and I do remember you mentioning it some time back.

    I've just gone and measured some OCBD shirts. My older LE OCBD (from 3-4 years back), one of which is the Hyde Park version and one of which is not, have collar point lengths of 7.4cm.

    A newer, pink-and-white striped, Hyde Park OCDB that I got from Land's End earlier this year does have shorter points, measuring 7cm from the collar band to the tip of the collar. So there is a difference of 0.4cm there (or about one-sixth of an inch). The recent Hyde Park shirt still has a nice collar roll and so I'm not terribly upset about the shorter point length.

    Interestingly, I also measured the collar point length on a couple of my old, Uniqlo OCBD shirts, which I've had since 2005 or thereabouts. They had surprisingly long collar points, measuring 8.5cm in length, a full cm more than the older LE collars!
     
  15. lennier

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    Hmm. Well frankly while PJ are 'by appointment' they are also very popular and busy, so expecting to get an appointment the same day is a tad unrealistic. So even if they were open on Mondays your result probably would have been the same.
     
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    I always wondered why the hooha about The Iconic even though they stock nothing outside of the same stuff that gets peddled by every other Australian based fashion store - both online and bricks & mortar. It makes a lot of sense that it's all bullshit.
     
  17. TehBunny

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    Fxh your friends blog is awesome!
     
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    I guess I haven't given it too much thought but I am kind of surprised its doing poorly. Seemed like a pretty basic online business model where they had sourced a wide range of brands/options etc. Clearly not the case but I also thought it was reasonably popular, with the advertising etc, a couple of people in the office use them for basic tees and casual shoes, they seem pretty happy with the service. Oh well.

    Speaking of online stores, someone in the AE thread gave the heads up Jos A Bank is having 66% off, unfortunately the shoe trees are restricted to the US. They have a pretty wide range of belts though going cheap and some pocket squares.
     
  19. Henry Carter

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    Forced back in to flannel today. Almost all my winter suits and coats are either at the tailors, cleaners or my daughter has slobbered on them and they'll be going to the cleaners!

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    Suit: Herringbone Sydney
    Shirt: Kamakura
    Tie: Henry Carter 9cm 7 fold repp
    Shoes: Carmina
    PS: Random
     
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  20. TheWraith

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    Sorry to hear about your troubles.
     
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