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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Journeyman

    Journeyman Well-Known Member

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    Oli, as others have said, most of the difference is in the leather quality. That can affect the way the colour looks on the leather, the way it creases when you wear it, and the way it wears over time.

    I've got shoes from Barker and Loake at the lower end, and from Edward Green, Lobb and a couple of Italian places at the upper end. The leather on the upper-end shoes really is much better than the leather used in the cheaper shoes. The colour looks much better, it develops a nicer patina, it tends to "hold" polish better and to develop a better shine, and the creases are much finer. The stitching is also finer, particularly on my Italian shoes. Also, the higher-end shoes wore in more quickly and easily than did my Loakes.

    Notwithstanding that, however, as has already been said, if you only wear Loakes and take good care of them, your shoes will still look very nice. I like the Loakes that I have and the Capital last is very nicely-shaped. I've found that, if I put some RM Williams leather conditioner on to the vamp of a new pair of Loakes a couple of times before I wear them (letting it soak in for a day or two, applying another coat, letting it soak in for another day or two and then wearing them), the shoes feel more comfortable and wear in quite quickly.
     
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    Thanks JM, right back atchya mate.
     
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    I prefer Coriander
     
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    My mate The Shooman says to always put conditioner on new shoes as they have often been sitting a long time without a drink.

    I always condition the heel inside and out and especially on the top edges to avoid the dreaded topline seam rub. Sometimes its worth conditioning the inside of the toe cap seam
     
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    Good advice I reckon. First thing I do with new shoes, condition them up a couple of times.

    Never thought of conditioning the inside of a shoe.
     
  8. Geoffrey Firmin

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    Took the boy to buy some work trousers yesterday, the salesman directed him towards one brand mulit pockets knee guards ect, so he goes to try the size on and comes out and there skinny stove pipe legs. Before I could say anything the salesman turned to me and said ' all the blokes his age are wearing them'

    What ever happened to plain grey King Gees?
     
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    Had the morning off, got a fresh cut and stopped inside American Tailors. Chilly but not rude service. Basically fewer and fewer carminas. Upon questioning, seems like they will only stock CJ's in the future ("poor return" was the term used). There were like 2 pairs of GG's left. Slim pickings.
     
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    Place was like a fucking madhouse last time I went there.
    SUggest going during the week if you don;t want to have to elbow people in the face to get to a shirt.
     
  11. Plestor

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    I've got both Loake for Herring and EG oxfords you can spot the difference pretty easily from a distance -- even with the EGs being a conservative last (202).
     
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    iSurg, thank you for the round up on what's on offer at AT. I haven't been in since the beginning of the year and there was already a limited selection of Carmina shoes.

    Regarding shoes, I agree with Plestor that you can quite easily tell the difference between, for example, Loake and EG, from a distance. I also agree with the earlier comment that Cheaney (at 20 to 30 per cent more) looks more handsome than a pair of Loake's. But, Loake still make good shoes and it's about finding what fits your needs and wants.

    Oh, iSurg - keen to hear your thoughts on Bailey Nelson - happy for you to PM if you feel more comfortable sharing views that way.
     
  13. Petepan

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    Re the Loakes, an easier comparison is Meermin vs Loakes. I personally found Loakes to lack adequate cork padding and stiff leather insole. The difference in comfort is already a million years apart, for the same price, and we have not even started on leather quality yet.
     
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    Regarding photo uploads. You can chuck then onto imgur then link them here
     
  15. strumpey

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    I couldn't find the post, but someone was asking about watch repairs in Sydney.

    Try this guy (can't remember his name):

    Time Connections
    Shop 2a, 780 Bourke Street
    Redfern

    02 8084 5219

    He rides into the CBD a few times a week which is handy.
     
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    Not only is it easier to compare Loake and Meermin, PetePan, but also fairer. Comparing Loake's 1880 range (though it's their best), with EG, John Lobb, et al isn't at all fair to any of the brands, because they do cater to vastly different budgets.
     
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    An entirely valid point, TBM, but it's worth noting that Oli did originally ask why one would bother to purchase C&J's or even more expensive shoes as opposed to a pair of Loake 1880 shoes, and so responses to his question naturally mentioned more expensive brands.
     
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    Does MJ Bale do the 2 for $1000 instore as well? Been waiting a few weeks for them to restock some of the online sizes of the pants, customer service whilst very nice keeps assuring me they update the inventory regularly...not seeing it though.

    Are there any Loake (price) or equivalent with a nice darkish brown that people would recommend in an oxford? I was considering the Meermin brown calf oxford but the wait times is a little off putting, eitherway if anyone has a recommendation would love to hear.

    I see I missed the Cardigan discussion earlier but for what its worth these arrived today, pretty happy with them for the 25% off. if you are after colour and something different than grey::

    http://www.trenery.com.au/shop/knitwear-offer/mens-knits/60154961/Rack-Yoke-Cardigan.html
    http://www.trenery.com.au/shop/knitwear-offer/mens-knits/60151927/Shawl-Cotton-Cardigan.html
     
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    Yes. And if they store doesn't have your size, they'll order it in. They get $$ for sales, obviously. Buy enough stuff and they usually give you a discount, too.
     
  20. Petepan

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    Very true. I pointed out Meermin because the Meerkats are quite close to C & J's benchgrade in terms of quality, and hence by choosing Meermin, Oli may be getting C & J quality for Loake's price, which solves his conundrum. We Aussies are practical buggers.
     
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