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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. fxh

    fxh Well-Known Member

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    I'm always in touch with shooey {wink}

    I seem to recollect that shooey thought he was a talented young man who had got on the wrong path but wasn't beyond future redemption. I might be wrong and just imagining.

    Everyone - including shooman - understand that you have to earn a crust and cater to the market.
    Although there is the question as to how much you can shape the market. Chickens - eggs. After all people can only buy that which is for sale and sellers can only earn from that which actually sells.
     
  2. fxh

    fxh Well-Known Member

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    I note even the "conservative" styles have the dreaded toe spring.
    Can't see why its remotely considered attractive - even to (sydney) hipsters.
    Maybe I don't get out enough.

    edit:: They don't look Goodyear to me but then meister would have a better eye based on photos.

    There is a mistaken idea that unless a shoe is Goodyear or Hand stitched it can't be any good. Not necessarily so.
     
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  3. fxh

    fxh Well-Known Member

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    Geoffery Firmin - thanks for the reply - I'll get back and continue the discourse.
     
  4. Dusty Brogues

    Dusty Brogues Well-Known Member

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    Hi FXH, how so? To the above.... My general education has taught me glued = crap

    Or is that the same thought as fused suits being of a lesser quality. That theory appears strained as The Suit Shop attests.
     
  5. wishiwasricher

    wishiwasricher Well-Known Member

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    I think a lot of AM's shoes could be considered STreet wear formal if that makes any sense.

    I can't comment on the quality but from the styles I've seen, I could definitely see people wearing them with jeans chinos in less formal settings. Not my cup of tea but to each their own.
     
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    I agree. There are many beautiful looking Italian-made shoes that do not boast Goodyear welted construction and I feel are overlooked as being sub-par. People then go on to choose a pair of Goodyear welted shoes with shoddy looking uppers instead of a much nicer looking pair without that perceived "benefit"..
     
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    It is my understanding that the toe spring goes away very quickly.
     
  8. thebrownman

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    I agree. There are many beautiful looking Italian-made shoes that do not boast Goodyear welted construction and I feel are overlooked as being sub-par. People then go on to choose a pair of Goodyear welted shoes with shoddy looking uppers instead of a much nicer looking pair without that perceived "benefit"..
     
  9. lachyzee

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    Calling SF fashion buffs:

    Does anyone (fxh?) know what you call these sleeve things (a "sleeve epaulet", if you will) on a coat/rain mac? What is their history and do they have a function? I can't seem to find anything on google.

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    If there was two buttons on the sleeve instead of one, I could see it serving some purpose ie you could cinch the sleeves in, but with one is it simply a fashionable appendage to the coat?
     
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    They are stylised imitations of buckled sleeve straps - the original purpose of which was to tighten to keep out the elements.

    See under para 9 in the following site:

    http://www.gentlemansgazette.com/trench-coat-guide/

    As you have noted, these ones are homage/decoration rather than functional.

    Stiva
     
  11. Henry Carter

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    Hmm my two both have the same thing but adjustable like a belt I.e so you can cinch them in to keep the weather out. So I can only assume those ones are for show.
     
  12. lachyzee

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    Hmm OK thanks makes sense. That's what I had figured, but I couldn't understand why there'd be only one button.

    It must be some serious, serious (English?) weather that would require the sleeves to be cinched!
     
  13. Oli2012

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    Guys I know I'm a massive pest, but I've got some questions regarding shoe care and am having trouble finding answers.

    1) What are the 'must reads' on polishing/conditioning shoes? What stuff do I need and where am I best to order it?

    2) I'm unhappy with the shade of my shoe. Originally I wanted a dark brown, but went a chestnut because that was all they had. Is there any way for me to darken my shoes a shade or two?
     
  14. Journeyman

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    A sleeve strap, perhaps?

    I agree that nowadays it seems to serve no practical purpose as, if there is only one button, it's not possible to use the strap to actually adjust the sleeve opening.
     
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    fxh -please do I read some excerpts from the first book you mentioned found it interesting food for thought.
     
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    Anyone with leads on getting decent sleeveless cardigans other than drakes? Johnston's doesn't have any. I'm finding it hard to locate a vendor with a good selection...
     
  17. fxh

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    My inspector gadget trenchcoat has adjustable sleeve cuff straps with a buckle and 4 holes. Its originally practical use as you may have guessed to adjust to keep out weather, rain, cold wind, etc. Its a bit of overkill unless you are marching a few kilometres across the wastelands of coastal St kilda looking to score.

    Most other jackets and coats its been evolved/devolved down to a decoration or frippery or a representation /reference to what used to be.
    Many other menswear details are the same, buttonhole in lapel, buttons on suit jacket cuff, button down collar??
     
  18. lachyzee

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    Brogues, too. I've always enjoyed the story of their roots.
     
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    As fxh noted, the original purpose stems from military applications. not civilian. I suspect when crawling around in knee deep mud in trenches they were appreciated. Nowadays they're purely decorative in any conditions that sane human beings would venture out into voluntarily.
     
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    Not my intention to imply this, just that his shoes don't look Blake stitched so I assume he uses one of the other methods.
     
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