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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Romp

    Romp Well-Known Member

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    you mean a salesperson in adelaide? we plan on doing a visit longer term
     
  2. California Dreamer

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    Correct. Also, I prefer not to try my employer's patience by using their mail room for private purposes, so I use my home address. There was somebody home both days that DHL "attempted" to deliver. We all know what goes on there.
     
  3. zachary12

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    In my experience, DHL has been handed over to an AusPost contractor and the times I've missed him I was able to pick it up from the local P.O. No idea if it's the same for Melb.
     
  4. Gerry Nelson

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    I called DHL the day before the scheduled delivery date to confirm and they assured me it was going to be delivered as scheduled. It was delivered 10 minutes after my call - lucky I was working from home that day.
     
  5. TehBunny

    TehBunny Well-Known Member

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    Got skipped over; appreciate some advice also sorry for the repost.
     
  6. wishiwasricher

    wishiwasricher Well-Known Member

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    Do you really need to make the move to bespoke? I know it can the grail of menswear but I'm sure you can get by with some quality shoes rtw.

    To each their own but I reckon if you found some styles and brands you like the look of and experimented with the different lasts you will find plenty that fit "well" without the cost of bespoke.

    Try some different brands on at the various shoe stores and see how you go. Just my two cents.
     
  7. TehBunny

    TehBunny Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I would love to but have tried everything around my size in Australia and gone to pretty much all the shoe stores and haven't had any luck; going to Canada and Japan at the end of the year If I can't find any lasts that fit me there I'm gonna bit the bullet and get something that will be used a lot bespoke.
     
  8. tobiasj

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    It didn't get skipped over, it's just that very few people have bespoke shoes.
     
  9. wishiwasricher

    wishiwasricher Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried biting the bullet and ordering something online without trying on?

    I bought some second hand gaziano girlings that fit like a glove (or like a vibram foot thing!) and currently have a pair of carmina's on the way without trying any on. I'd experiment on a few shops return policy before going bespoke. How would you get measured anyway? Any thoughts as to the brand of bespoke you would go? Are there people coming to Australia to measure up?
     
  10. Journeyman

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    Bunny, have you been to Double Monk as yet?

    Most of their shoes are very expensive, but they seem to have priced their C&J shoes very reasonably and C&J do make wide fitting shoes in certain models and, if I remember correctly, you main problem with getting shoes that were sufficiently wide to comfortably accommodate your feet.

    Double Monk are apparently also planning on hosting trunk shows for some MTO/bespoke shoemakers such as Cleverly and perhaps EG or G&G in the coming months, so that could well be something that you could follow up, although I'm sure that their prices will be very high for MTO or bespoke shoes.

    With regard to going to Japan, you probably won't have much luck finding wide-fitting shoes there as most Japanese people tend to have small, quite narrow feet so the chances are that there won't be much for you to try on there.

    You may have more luck in Canada and it would at least give you the opportunity to try on various models from Alden and Allen-Edmonds, which you're not able to do in Australia.

    There are some people making bespoke or MTO shoes in Australia but (in my opinion, at least), the shoes that they make look rather clunky and whilst they may fit well (which is the most important thing, of course), they don't look particularly elegant and I would think that in an ideal world, a bespoke shoe should encapsulate both of those qualities, and be both well-fitting and elegant.
     
  11. lachyzee

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    Allen Edmonds make a lot (if not all) of their shoes down to a size 6, from AAA - EEE, and in several different lasts that are noticeably different. I'd say they must have something for everyone.
     
  12. TehBunny

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    ^^^Tobi yeah that's why I said sorry for the double post; though I remember Rob has a pair (I think).
    ^^Yup bought many shoes online and sent back; I have the opposite feet to you it seems as my feet are small and wide with a tiny heel. Would either go full broke and get a pair at one of the trunkshows at DubMonk or at 'zees' (?) in Hong for cheap.
    ^Yeah been to DoubleMonk and have tried on for near 3/4 of an hour and as many shoes as possible thank to the amazing guys there; planning on Alden as they seem to be made for hobbit feeted men like me. Otherwise will go to makers as said above^
     
  13. Journeyman

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    Obviously, if you have some shoes made at Zee's Leatherware in HK, you're not going to be getting the same quality as you would if you went with EG or G&G MTO shoes. However, you'd also be paying far, far less money. In fact, the money that you save would probably pay for your airfare to HK.

    I've got a couple of friends who have had shoes made by Zee's. The quality is not fantastic but they are nonetheless reasonable shoes, certainly on a par with the overpriced stuff that you get at dept stores and most other specialist shoe stores here.

    If you happen to be passing through Singapore, there's another bespoke/MTO shoemaker who has started up operations there. I have no experience at all with him, but his shoes do look nice: Ed Et Al.

    With regard to Alden, I think that they do make one or two lasts that are designed to accommodate people with a narrow heel and a wide forefoot, such as the Modified last or Trubalance last, so they could both be worth investigating if you track down an Alden stockist in Canada or Japan (Note: Even if you can find Alden shoes that fit your wide feet in Japan, don't buy them there as Alden shoes are horrendously, horrendously expensive in Japan, as are other US- and UK-made shoes).
     
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    Have you tried contacting shooman? IIRC he doesn't have a non banned account over here atm. Try FNB.

    EG hasn't done bespoke for a while.
     
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    Those sound great, I'm always searching for some decent local gloves. Will pick up a pair when the weather starts warranting it.

    Very nice. Look forward to hearing/seeing more about it.
     
  16. Journeyman

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    Plestor, whilst it's true that EG doesn't do bespoke anymore (not since Tony Gaziano left to found Gaziano & Girling, or G&G), they still do MTO shoes and you can specify a particular design and a particular width, for example. You will pay quite a lot for the privilege of doing so!

    For those who might not know, FNB is the "Film Noir Buff Forum", a forum started by an SF member who was later banned. A lot of the members over at FNB have been banned from SF and Ask Andy About Clothes (AAAC). Shooman, an erstwhile member of SF who posted here recently under the handle of "Hoo-man", posts over on FNB as Shooman and he's been posting some bespoke shoes that were made in Melbourne recently.
     
  17. Dusty Brogues

    Dusty Brogues Well-Known Member

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    Nice piece of background JM....

    How does one get banned from SF?

    Actually my next question might get me banned..... In regards to Zegna suiting how do they stack up in terms of construction, quality. Are they generally cut on a conservative block or more tapered? I have been eyeing off a few Zegna DB's. It appears most DB's have a chalk/pin stripe of some sort, does that mean that's the ideal look of the DB?

    Dusty
     
  18. Selvaggio

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    This is good advice Bunny. I have properly wide feet as well, so I can sympathise. Even in the widest fittings available here, there is always compromise - they are either massively too long or vice-like. Other than just puting up with it, Zee's and Alden are probably good options.

    True bespoke shoes, at high quality points are going to be very expensive. Better to experiment with somewhere like Zee's first. I have a pair. As JM said, they are not superb quality, but they are not too bad and certainly great value. And they fit. But I have learnt a couple of things. Firstly, their leather is pretty stiff. Secondly, the sheer expanse of leather I need to stretch across my forefoot means really prominent buckling at the flex point. I went for a pretty plain design, but I think something with more brogueing might be better - as the wrinkles would be less prominent. Also, suede might be a better option. Can you come back from Japan via HK?

    Alden have a range of high volume lasts. Some have specific purposes, so it might be worth having a look at their website with a podiatrist. Most of these shoes are hideous, but some are okay. I have a pair in a chunky, very American long wing style. Elegant, they are not. Comfy though.
     
  19. TheWraith

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    I can recommend Shanghai Tianzi Shoes as well. Same story as Zees in regards to overall quality, I'd say (though I've never used Zees personally).
     
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  20. TehBunny

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    Thanks a lot for your help all of you! I will off course see what there is to offer in Canada and Japan (unfortunately can't go to HK) if nothing works out I will decide on whether I will get from Zee's or Trunk shows; depends If I become enamoured at the shows or if I choose to keep my wits about me :)
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    Might I trouble you JM for a link to the thread with hooman's bespoke shoes have been googling but can only find his older posts on his shoe progress on FNB. (Pm)

    Thanks again! Oh Rob pls post your experience on your Manina's (?)
     
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