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Australian Members - Part II - if you read the first post, you'll get what this is all about.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Foxhound, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. The Ernesto

    The Ernesto Well-Known Member

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    The world is your lobster.
     
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  2. Coxsackie

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    Showing my age of course - but what a great show.
     
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    PM PoP - Oi Terry - you said you wouldn't post that pic of us. Anyway you think you can bodgie up a computer bag for ernie? He'll fall for any thing if you hype it up as a Pitti special or Simon Cromptom or Rake approved. We should make a few easy squids from him. See ya - arthur
     
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    fxh Well-Known Member

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    Rodd & Gunn x Suitably Connected

    Thursday, September 8, 2016
    6:00pm 8:30pm
    Rodd & Gunn @ St Collins Lane
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    3. Amisfield Pinot Noir 2013 valued at $50.
     
  5. Epicure

    Epicure Well-Known Member

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    Gentleman,

    Apologies in advance for a wordy post (if you're not interested in/knowledgeable about hats, you needn't read further).

    I would like ask the advice of those out there who do wear hats. I would especially values opinions from those among you who regularly or semi-frequently don a quality dress hat (@Coxsackie et al?)

    Now, the question: Which dress hat styles could I ideally pair with jackets of the (faux) tweed variety with louder patterns in warm and/or earthy tones? What about one I could wear with a grey herringbone tweed? Possibly this is the kind of question that might be better suited to a dedicated hat thread, but I particularly wanted an Australian perspective, at least in the first instance.

    To state the obvious, I'll need something seasonally appropriate, so straw and Panama hats are completely out of the question. I have my summer hat wardrobe covered and I'm now looking to purchase a second dress hat I can wear during the colder times of the year.

    I currently own a dark brown Fedora with a decent brim (64mm) and similarly coloured ribbon band which I've successfully paired with a blazer and grey flannels. As other examples, I've also paired it with a dark camel coloured overcoat with pleasing results and with a jacket that has a small houndstooth pattern in straw/cream and brown with subtle windowpane overcheck in green and blue. The cloth is very similar to this:

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    This jacketing evidently has a country heritage. As such, if I'm wearing this type of jacketing with a fedora featuring a ribbon band and bound edge brim (a 'city' hat), is my outfit incongruous? Or am I mistaken that a ribbon band is a feature of 'city' hats? While I like to think the dark brown colour takes care of any incongruity, and I feel comfortable wearing the mentioned pairing, I wouldn't mind some opinions of seasoned hat wearers. Maybe the fact that I'm wearing jackets in the CBD that wouldn't look out of place in the English countryside, I'm already past the point of it actually mattering, but again, opinions are appreciated.

    A further question, for those that might provide the opinion that a fedora and jackets/suits reminiscent of English country attire are not particularly compatible: Does a leather band solve the problem? If so, what options does this leave me? I recently tried on the "Banjo Paterson" style by Akubra. The hat suits me, but can I in good taste wear such a hat with tailored clothing? IMO, it's one of the least "Australian country" looking hats among the Akubra range, quite similar to a fedora, and I'd say the leather band (not conspicuously from barramundi) definitely makes the hat look more casual. I've hesitated on buying it, because my feeling is that this hat shouldn't be paired with tailored clothing, even though it doesn't look "off" to my eye. I'm currently leaning toward getting another fedora, ribbon banded, in another 'non-city' colour, as in my mind and to my eye, the colour is more important that the style of band in this decision. Would anyone care to persuade me otherwise or at least chip in with an informed 0.02?
     
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  6. Prince of Paisley

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    My advice is don't overthink it. Sounds like the brown fedora you have would go well with tweed, flannels, what you are describing. Having a ribbon vs leather band vs bound brim makes a microscopic difference IMO - if you are wearing a hat these days you are standing out already. What is more important is the shape of the hat - if you're wearing a top hat or a bowler it will look a bit odd with anything but a suit or theatre costume (unless you are a Japanese, because as our resident expert Journeyman will attest, bowlers are a staple of Japanese fashion). A fedora is a jack of all trades and goes with pretty much anything. You can wear it with a wax cotton coat on a rainy night, or with a sportscoat and trousers to keep the wind off your head on a cold day. The most important thing is to wear a hat, don't let it wear you.
     
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  7. Coxsackie

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    @Epicure , I think you've answered your own question. Patterned tweed jackets are a country look, so you should opt for a more country hat. I don't think a broad-brimmed fedora is appropriate in this context.

    Go for a shorter-brimmed style in a softer brown-toned rabbit felt, or a textured fabric. You could also try a baker's-boy cap - VictorSFreturn does these very well. The more extreme ones don't suit me because of the shape of my head, but if you have a squarer face with a strong jaw you could certainly rock this look with your tweeds.

    Go into a respectable store like City Hatters (Melb) or Strand Hatters (Syd) wearing your preferred style of outfit, try everything on, and also ask the sales assistant's opinion.

    If you're in Melbourne, there's another good hat shop in Gertrude Street just up from the Smith St intersection. Pricey, but the owner is an enthusiast.
     
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  8. Epicure

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    PoP, you're basically affirming that my current approach is fine as long as I can rock the look. Since I feel very confident in my dark brown fedora in just about any jacket and tie, you probably are right that I'm overthinking things. It was, however, good to confer and receive that perspective from someone else other than the assistant in the hat shop I've already visited for my second brimmed hat. By the way, my current fedora is this one:
    http://www.akubra.com.au/shop-product/urban-styles/stylemaster (in Loden)

    Cox, thanks for all the good pointers. It's good to have someone offer the opposite perspective, suggesting a wider brimmed fedora isn't really the optimal choice. I do own a couple of caps which I wear from time to time, and quite like the aesthetic they bring to my outfits, however I don't like the hat hair they often cause. So I limit my wear of those when I'm going to be outside all day. Fur felt hats and the like only impact my hairstyle in a very minimal way, such that if I have to take off the hat at times when I can't get in front of a mirror to fix it, it's not an issue. The same can't be said for caps!

    I've had success with Strand Hatters in Sydney in the past where I bought a homburg which I wear with suits and overcoats on the few occasions a year when I want some extra panache that even a fedora can't provide. I love my homburg, but it's not a versatile hat for my wardrobe, as I'm not often in a suit. It is there when I need/want it, however, and I feel it's great asset when it is on my head.

    Unfortunately, there is only one decent hat shop where I live and while there are a variety of pleasing hats available, the range isn't nearly so extensive as to be able to get exactly the style and colour I would prefer. Given my relative paucity of options, I may await a trip to Melbourne or Sydney before buying another fur felt hat, or just buy something offered locally to satisfy my craving until I find my next ideal hat interstate.

    Opinions on a shorter brimmed style (with the jacketing I mentioned), such as this one:
    http://www.akubra.com.au/shop-product/urban-styles/hampton ?

    I can advise that I've tried it on and complements me very well, despite the diminished brim and my above average height (~193cm). I just ask, because it's part of Akubra's urban range, but besides the ribbon, I figure it's quite a country looking hat in the English sense and not at all "Oz" in the way that Akubra is known for.
     
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  9. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Well-Known Member

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    I think thebrownman - if he's still lurking - had one of those. Suited him very well and from a couple of pics I remember the hat looked well with TBM's smart casual gear.
     
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  10. Epicure

    Epicure Well-Known Member

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    What was TBM's approach to "smart casual"?
     
  11. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Well-Known Member

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    Smartness level = Einstein.
     
  12. Epicure

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    I get that Einstein was a genius, but I have very little idea about his actual work.

    Hopefully some understanding of TBM's work is possible without a crash course in theoretical physics.
     
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  13. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Well-Known Member

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    Here's his tumblr - have a look for yourself. I'm sure TBM won't mind me sharing the link!

    http://www.thebrownman.net/
     
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  14. cheungish

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    More of the beautiful Orazio Luciano :D
     
  15. Epicure

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    Thank you. I will indeed have a look.
     
  16. Coxsackie

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    Brownman is the sort of guy who, when you walk into a #mensweartragic function like, say, the Henry Buck's re-opening, you think to yourself, "who's that well-dressed dude?"

    Does anyone remember the clip of him proposing to his future wife? Twenty-piece dance troupe with him at the front doing an Astaire routine, in a public park. Lay-down misère!

    Basically: a genuine playa.
     
  17. Epicure

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    Indeed. Exact impression I have now that I've viewed his tumbler. Looks like PoP may be right about that smaller brimmed fedora he wears too.
     
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    Pizza Pinot and Finals footy. A weekend when too much sport is not enough.

    Oh and I believe the Wanabies are playing.
     
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    What are they playing this time?
     

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