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Audemars Piguet

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Miguel Antonio, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Well-Known Member

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    "In this great[vague] Swiss Manufacture of watches, the torch of the founders of the company continues to be carried by their successors in hot line. Since 1882, the members of the Audemars families and Piguet sat always at the Board of directors and thus directly or indirectly ran the company." Wikipedia

    That's enough fo me, that commands a lot of respect, as no other traditional watch maker can claim that. I cannot think of a better contender to Patek Philippe.


    And that makes them the new "king"? You're grasping at straws here. Why don't you just be honest and go ahead and say "I like AP, and I don't care for PP or VC"
     
  2. Miguel Antonio

    Miguel Antonio Well-Known Member

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    I don't even like AP. I prefer A. Lange & Söhne.
    However I like the equation of time model, Jules
    Audemars from Audemars Piguet.

    This thread was given birth thanks to this article:
    http://www.thepurists.com/watch/apppvcprimer.html

    Please provide critique to the article in question and
    to my choice of watch. (Equation of time, Jules Audemars)
     
  3. Coho

    Coho Well-Known Member

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    no matter what marketers try to tell you, horology is a mature science. The numerous "innovations" are no more than novelties of an old concept that has been tweaked to death over the years. I haven't seen anything that can be justifiably labeled as a punctuated leap in technology regarding mechanical timing devices. My ETA 2824 runs -1 second a day and about 3-5 seconds slow a weak. Beat that Lange-o-tourbillon-minute-repeater-o-graph! Let's face it, modern mechanical watches are jewelries and status symbol. Anyone who convinces you otherwise is a clever jeweler.
     
  4. Mustapha

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    no matter what marketers try to tell you, horology is a mature science. The numerous "innovations" are no more than novelties of an old concept that has been tweaked to death over the years. I haven't seen anything that can be justifiably labeled as a punctuated leap in technology regarding mechanical timing devices. My ETA 2824 runs -1 second a day and about 3-5 seconds slow a weak. Beat that Lange-o-tourbillon-minute-repeater-o-graph! Let's face it, modern mechanical watches are jewelries and status symbol. Anyone who convinces you otherwise is a clever jeweler.

    What kills me is the watch forums that encourage, no, DEMAND regular posts of 'lookey what I bought'. So you go out on a regular basis and spend hundreds/thousands of dollars - whatever you can credit card or line of credit and make these posts so you can get oohs and ahs. [​IMG]
     
  5. Miguel Antonio

    Miguel Antonio Well-Known Member

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    Also some watch collectors have a genuine interest in watches or horology.
     
  6. Mustapha

    Mustapha Well-Known Member

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    Also some watch collectors have a genuine interest in watches or horology.

    Perhaps so. Perhaps also a genuine interest in receiving accolades from strangers.
     
  7. Miguel Antonio

    Miguel Antonio Well-Known Member

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    I feel envy and resentment in your words, but I could be confusing envy with detachment. Perhaps you should be on some philosophy or socialism forums.
     
  8. norcaltransplant

    norcaltransplant Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps so. Perhaps also a genuine interest in receiving accolades from strangers.

    I've received less than 20 comments/compliments on ANY watch I currently own or have owned in the past (FWIW, the most complimented watch I own is a scratched up Fossil). Only watch people care about watches.... unless it's Rolex or Cartier.

    Btw, Rolex is still the King (of sales).
    Hublot gets the nod for Kind of Marketing (Runner-Up Zenith)
    Audemars is King of Celebrities
    Panerai is King of Testosterone
    Seiko is the Ugly Stepchild of Swiss Watchmaking
     
  9. Miguel Antonio

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    Seiko is innovative. Fluid motion of Spring Drive models
    comes to mind.
     
  10. norcaltransplant

    norcaltransplant Well-Known Member

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    Seiko is innovative. Fluid motion of Spring Drive models
    comes to mind.


    Just because Seiko is creative and innovative does not disqualify the company from being an Ugly Stepchild. In my experience, most reps from Swiss companies begrudingly give Seiko their due respect.
     
  11. Mustapha

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    I feel envy and resentment in your words, but I could be confusing envy with detachment. Perhaps you should be on some philosophy or socialism forums.

    Miguel, I'm not THAT far left [​IMG] . I am against crass display and for genuine horological technical and brand interest. By the way, I consider your interest in the Jules Audemars EOT intriqueing. A interesting bit of timekeeping mechanics added to the extremely well regarded 2120 base. Would be my watch if the investment portfolio could stand cashing out but it can't.
     
  12. montecristo#4

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    I prefer this Roche Vouceau. It tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome and Gstaad.
     
  13. fftfft

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    I prefer this Roche Vouceau. It tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome and Gstaad.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. academe

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    "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it".
    Albert Einstein




    "In this great[vague] Swiss Manufacture of watches, the torch of the founders of the company continues to be carried by their successors in hot line. Since 1882, the members of the Audemars families and Piguet sat always at the Board of directors and thus directly or indirectly ran the company." Wikipedia

    That's enough fo me, that commands a lot of respect, as no other traditional watch maker can claim that. I cannot think of a better contender to Patek Philippe.


    I just think you're missing the point and I agree that you are grasping at straws. It's like asking: "What is the best car?" or "What is the best suit?" or "Who should I marry?" There's no real answer to it; it's a matter of personal taste, and whole list of variables that will vary from individual to individual.
     
  15. Mute

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    You're entitled to your opinion......




























    even if it's wrong.
     

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