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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. mymil

    mymil Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of... surveys are a really awful research methodology, the results of which are very unlikely to answer a given question. (Qualitative research is my job.) I'd want to have somebody interact with samples that are tagged exactly as they would be in the store, not force respondents to completely imagine a product.

    Additionally, you would be lucky if 10% of people who ever say they "would buy" something actually make a purchase when it's time to put down the cash.
     
  2. onix

    onix Well-Known Member

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    Back when I was in graduate school, there was a whole course on survey design alone, a combination of psychology, statistics and game theory. The point is that survey can be a great tool to collect information if it's done right; unfortunately, most surveys out there are done incorrectly.
     
  3. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    Technically, "formal attire" means "black tie," and that means you're expected to wear a tuxedo.

    Okay, there are exceptions. Very rarely, it might mean "white tie." If you're a military officer, it might mean mess uniform. For a Scot, I suppose it could mean dress kilt.

    Maybe it means something different from "black tie," in the Hindu culture. I don't know. If you don't know either, well, since you've been invited to the wedding, you presumably know the bride, the groom, or a person closely related to them. Such being the case, call this person, and ask. Asking a legitimate question should not leave you feeling uncomfortable. Showing up improperly attired might leave you feeling uncomfortable.

    The wedding's at 4PM. Traditionally, a tuxedo was an "after 6PM" item. But hey, these days lots of weddings held in the daytime are black tie, at least in the United States. And at least the wedding starts at 4PM; black tie at an 11am wedding really feels wrong to me.

    And then there are those wedding invitations which specify "formal attire," because the bride simply doesn't want anyone showing up in jeans, and she thinks that "formal attire" means "suit." I'm not making this up; there absolutely are brides who think this. I was even invited to a wedding where the bride specified "black tie preferred," because she thought it meant "suit or sport coat preferred (but not required)."

    mymil nailed it - Call and ask.
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  4. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    Seems like it'd be hard to go wrong buying Albert Thurston braces from Albert Thurston. But I've got nothing against ASW, so if you feel like supporting it, go ahead.

    Assuming the prices are comparable (including shipping, tax, whatever), and availability and return policy are about the same, you could just flip a coin. Unlikely to go wrong, either way.

    Oh, and if shipping charges are the same for 2 sets of braces as for 1, you'd be foolish to only purchase a single set. It wouldn't be thrifty, you know? :)
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  5. Slickman

    Slickman Well-Known Member

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    I would but I don't wear braces with suits as almost all of mine have belt loops with the exception of a DB and a 3-piece both of which I haven't received yet. Hypothetically if I were to get a 2nd which would you recommend as a classic equivalent of a navy suit
     
  6. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    It's perfectly acceptable to wear braces with belt loops, you know. Don't wear braces with a belt, of course. But belt loops? Not a problem.

    Something a bit more whimsical than your first set. Not that your first choice isn't a handsome set of braces, but there's nothing wrong with wearing something more lighthearted on occasion. Albert Thurston has a Jazz Collection of braces, and some of the choices do appeal to me - particularly the Green Brocade, the Sapphire Moire Braid End, and the St. George & The Dragon Ltd. Edition.

    Usually, I go whimsical with a colorful pair of argyle socks. But doing it via braces works, too.
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  7. Dinhilion

    Dinhilion Well-Known Member

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    They probably mean suit. All of the women will be in Saris and men will most likely be in suits. But, would still call.
     
  8. 16simon

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    Do I need to use shoe trees in suede shoes or in leather boots (neither will have leather soles), or just in leather dress shoes with leather soles?

    Thanks :)
     
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  9. NORE

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    Use trees in any shoe/boot you wish to prolong life in.
     
  10. bourbonbasted

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    Does anybody have a clue about the quality of Jay Kos tailored goods or knows who makes for them? I'm eying a SC right now and am trying to get a feel for what I am actually purchasing. Thx in advance :slayer:
     
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    I can't comment on real tailored stuff, but I will say that about a year ago someone sold off a boat load of Jay Kos shirts on B&S (also on Ebay). I talked with them (can't remember who) and they were helping to liquidate a bunch of stuff because Jay Kos was moving stores. I picked up about 6 shirts at about $40-50 a pop and let me tell you, they were the bargain of the year for me. Fantastic materials - I mean really, really good cotton, cotton+linen, and cotton+silk blends with great construction. In retrospect, I wish I had gotten about 10 more. That's as much as I know, hope it helps.
     
  12. Flyswatter

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    Anyone know where I can find wool over-the-calf dress socks in a solid medium gray? I got the "dark gray" Pantherella pair that Sierra Trading Post has, but they are too dark for the suit trousers I'm trying to match.
     
  13. MRAMIT

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    What do you all think about these? Color is listed as Steel-gray, i'm not sure they're even available, i saw them at yoox. But im wondering if my sentiments of them are accurate. For context, wearing them with dark denim...
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  14. anginaprinzmetal

    anginaprinzmetal Well-Known Member

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    ^ kill... them... with... fire...

    or ask in the SW and D forum...
     
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    I don't think these are so bad. The really ugly parts will be covered by the jeans. The rest seems OK.
     
  17. cbbuff

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    A. You don't have to exactly match your trousers.

    B. Really? You can't find grey socks? The internets are your friend.
     
  18. cbbuff

    cbbuff Well-Known Member

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    Daffy goes best with Black Tie.
     
  19. Flyswatter

    Flyswatter Well-Known Member

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    I know I don't have to exactly match the trousers, but I'd like to get close in this case.


    Of course I can find gray socks, but finding wool, over-the-calf dress socks in a gray lighter than dark charcoal is proving rather difficult.


    That's why I came here... to this thread... ON THE INTERNETS. :nodding:
     
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    :D
     

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