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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. Sander

    Sander Well-Known Member

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    I'd also tend to no, but if you have to do it, take a knit tie. Navy is obvious.
     
  2. Dinhilion

    Dinhilion Well-Known Member

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    I am trying to decide what tie to wear for my wedding. I am wearing a standard tux and am trying to decide what bow tie to wear. I can't decide if I want to wear a black satin or silvery patterned one. Any suggestions? Finally- any brand suggestions? I can't seem to find discernible difference between brands. Is there something I should be looking for when I am buying them?
     
  3. patrickBOOTH

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    Brooks has some decent stuff. Get black, stay away from wild stuff with tuxes.
     
  4. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    Black tie should be black, ideally in the same material as your lapels.
     
  5. Dinhilion

    Dinhilion Well-Known Member

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    That is what I figured. Is diamond or square just personal preference?
    Also- I forum searched for bow tie construction and got one really old thread. Does anyone know where to find a bow tie primer?
     
  6. 12345Michael54321

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    Not directly in response to your question, but please tell me you won't be wearing a tuxedo for a daytime wedding.

    And that if your groomsmen will be wearing tuxedos, that you won't require them to rent identical ones.

    I get that both of these are common practices, but that doesn't necessarily make them right.
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  7. XKxRome0ox

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    hmm
    you don't think it's distracting if each groomsman wore something different?
    i guess most people won't really notice as long as they are just black and white...
     
  8. cptjeff

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    Different is good. They don't need to be dressed identically, just well, and at the same level of formality. If you're wearing a suit, they should be wearing suits, but not identical ones. If a tux, they should wear tuxedos. Let them choose their own detailing- shawl v. peak, cummerbund or vest, SB or DB. The only thing you should insist on is that they wear a bowtie, and that it be black.

    Dressing the groomsmen identically looks like costume
     
  9. Dinhilion

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    My wedding is at 7pm. And, while they are all wearing the same tux, it is only because I don't trust them to pick out their own. I see your point ab out different being good, I just don't know if it would work execution wise.
     
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  10. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    I think that most conservative black tuxedos are sufficiently similar in appearance that it's not distracting if they vary in some minor details. I know that if you examine wedding photos showing groomsmen (or just wedding guests) in tuxedos, it's very rare that you'd think to yourself, "Gee, that picture is nice. But it would look so much better if the men had rented identical clothing from Le Formal, over at the mall."

    Just specify "black tie," and that's typically quite enough. If you think some of your groomsmen might not understand what "black tie" means, explain to them that they must wear a conservative, black tuxedo. If they already own one, great. Otherwise, they can rent one. That's really all it'll take.

    My theory is that this relatively recent tendency of having groomsmen in matching rented clothing was brought about due to 4 factors:

    1. The practice of women having to wear hideously ugly bridesmaids dresses. They figure that they can't make us share the pain of childbirth or menstrual cramps (well, not firsthand, anyway), but they damn well can get us to share the pain of having our wardrobe choices dictated to us when we're in a wedding party.

    2. The tuxedo rental industry. Convincing people that groomsmen have to wear identical rented tuxedos is a financial windfall for them. (Yes, I own my own tuxedo. It's far nicer than a rental, and it fits me better, too. Rental tuxedos are like the rented bowling shoes of the wedding world.)

    3. As people have grown ever less familiar with just what constitutes appropriate attire for situations too formal to call for jeans, it seems ever more sensible to simply tell your groomsmen what to wear. Don't let them decide for themselves, or you'll have a guy in a lime green tuxedo with wide, crushed velvet lapels, appearing in many of your wedding photos.

    4. It looks kinda nice when, at a military wedding, the groomsmen are all in uniform. And that idea has spread way beyond its proper sphere.
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  11. mlg321

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    How should I wash my 100% cotton chinos so they don't shrink? They fit just right and I don't want them to get smaller. I'd obviously prefer to use a washing machine. It's also the first time I will wash them (just bought).

    Thank you.
     
  12. clarksdb

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    I don't think there is anything wrong in wearing a peacoat over a sport coat? Especially if you're wearing it with jeans.

    I agree it's not good with suits though.
     
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  13. J_Quinn

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    My Questions:

    What is the history of one button suits and where can I find more info about the rules, style effects, etc. of a one button suit?
     
  14. XKxRome0ox

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    says 4 ties minimum for tie cleaning...
    i only have 1 tie that needs cleaning...

    does anyone have any other tie cleaning service to recommend?
     
  15. CDHagg

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    Cold water, and no dryer. Hang them out to dry.

    Chinos really don't shrink that much since they are woven, not knit, so you don't have to worry too much.
     
  16. CDHagg

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    So, it cost $150? What is the brand?

    I recently bought a 100% cashmere scarf at Off 5th (Saks discount store) for $50. It was a Saks black label, not a brand name, but it is still cashmere. My point is that you can definitely find cheaper cashmere.
     
  17. CDHagg

    CDHagg Well-Known Member

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    Heehee, waiting for pictures? [​IMG]
     
  18. Gibonius

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    Johnstons of Elgin from Sierra Trading Post is great, at least when the Ebay flippers aren't buying them all.
     
  19. BostonHedonist

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    Serious question here. I just bought a gorgeous Burberry London Mini Check shirt. Got it from Mr. Porter and it's currently sold out now everywhere. It was a steal and would have been one of my favorite check shirts. Problem is, I got a 16.5 when I should have got a size 16. Its slightly too big in the shoulders, in the sleeve length and in the chest. For most guys I know it wouldn't be an issue. But I just downsized my wardrobe by 1/3, and tossed anything that I don't LOVE. Non-perfect fit has become unacceptable.

    I know my tailor can get the job done, but to tailor a shirt this well made, where all the lines match up at the seams just so, would probably cost a pretty penny. Should I get it tailored to fit me and pay for the fine needlework, or should I sell it to the forum? Decisions decisions....



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  20. CDHagg

    CDHagg Well-Known Member

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    I took these to a cobbler to get taps put on, and asked his advice concerning shoe care. He said that I didn't need to shine them, just use leather conditioner. Leather conditioner certainly helps-it makes the leather softer and removes smudges-but why would he tell me to not shine them? They are burnished brown leather, not shell cordovan. I thought all good leather shoes were meant to be shined...?
     

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