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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. Isolation

    Isolation Well-Known Member

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    It's a regional thing, I think. There's some idea, in America especially, that black and navy don't go together, and in some cases this is true (Black and Navy doesn't work in case of trousers and jacket usually, for instance), but in London specifically, black shoes are the norm, so Black and Navy is a clear go, but since that's not as much a thing in America, Navy is more often paired with Brown. The fact is, either is fine, but Brown is frowned upon in London, whereas Black + Navy is seen as a bad choice so even though in case of black shoes navy suit it is fine, you might look like you don't know stuff about clothes by people who dress by rules.
     
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  2. quabbs

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    Black and navy is more of a 'thing' in London than in the US partly, I suspect, because until recently the British interpretation of 'navy' was always rather duller and darker in tone. One of the old clothing stereotypes here was of the American wearing an 'electric-blue' suit, or some such colour. There are other factors at play, though.
     
  3. iloveshirts

    iloveshirts Active Member

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    What do you think to the fit of this shirt? It's from H&M can anyone tell me if they actually last more than a couple of washes?

    Thanks.

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  4. breakaway01

    breakaway01 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like it fits you quite well. Shoulder/yoke width looks good and cut is slim without being too tight. Actually one of the best fitting shirts that I can recall seeing on you. No idea about durability.

    Edit: one thing is that the sleeves may be slightly short on you, especially if there is shrinkage after washing. The body fits well.
     
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  5. HermesSeeker

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    Thank you, that's what I was wondering. I was picturing myself as Daniel Craig in Casino Royale, but not if I can't find the pants. Also, the thrift store wants $120 but yesterday was half-price. So glad I passed on it.
     
  6. Churchill W

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    I don't think there is a concept for black shoes and navy suits not going together in fact I think CBD probably says that is what you should wear with a navy suit. I just can't get on board with navy and black in one outfit.
     
  7. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    In the US, when it comes to dress shoes (so I'm not talking about Top-Sider, athletic footwear, etc.), black is, by far, the most common color choice. If someone's wearing a suit, it's extremely likely he's wearing black shoes. Black far outsells all other colors combined.
     
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  8. Konstantinos343

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    With what shirt I could match a vest which is gray in the front and black on the back? I would consider black as the only option.
     
  9. bringusingoodale

    bringusingoodale Well-Known Member

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    Black shoes and navy suit is the standard "gentleman's uniform"

    again, if you are seriously advocating the brown shoe blue suit outfit over wearing black shoes as if somehow wearing black shoes is the lesser choice... it's time to step back from the forum and blog advice.

    I think brown shoes with odd jacket and trousers can look good... Even dark brown and charcoal suit or navy suit, but the quickest way to label yourself as wannabe fop is to wear lighter shade of brown shoes with your dark suits.
     
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  10. mafoofan

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    Black shoes with navy suit is not just perfectly fine, but preferable to the light tans and golden browns that people think make them well-dressed.
     
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  11. RogerP

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    I could not agree more.
     
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  12. Churchill W

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    When I said brown with black suits I meant dark brown as you indicated in your post. I never said navy and tan or any non-dark brown. You first mentioned it in the picture you posted.
     
  13. Darkside

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    During my recent interview trail, every guy who I could tell was actually "trying" was wearing this combination. Goes for weddings as well. Most of them were also wearing some sort of gingham ties with a tie bar 4/5 times as well. Or a bowtie.
     
  14. mafoofan

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    Yep.

    Socks are usually some large-scale argyle in bright colors.


    In other words, the J. Crew look.
     
  15. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    If you say it was so, I believe you. But I'd also note that you weren't in any way seeing a representative sample of the US suit-wearing population, circa 2015. Since more men don't wear tie bars, than do wear them. And bow ties account for only a very modest percentage of ties worn.

    Of course, much of this does vary somewhat with age, location, and industry.
     
  16. HermesSeeker

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    Found this today. Here are the 2 inside labels. Does "estrato by Trabaldo Togna" signify anything of importance?
     
  17. Konstantinos343

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  19. Konstantinos343

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    Thank you for the answer. Wouldn't be a distraction from the gray though?
     
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