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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    No. Wearing a v-neck sweater is fine. Wearing a cardigan sweater is fine. Wearing both together is not fine.
     
  2. Shambles

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    Will do, I'll start looking at BB. Thanks for the opinions and advice. Another question that came up last night: if I wear a blue suit, white shirt, and darker patterned tie (maroon and brown hints), will a blue and brown scarf be appropriate considering the dress of the evening? It will be in the 30s (F) and partially outdoors, and I'm thinking a scarf will be useful if not necessary. Or is that just too casual for BTO?
     
  3. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Well-Known Member

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    A navy suit and burgundy tie with a white PS is as classic as classic gets.

    BTO means BTO. You have a date right? I would make sure you're on par with her. If she's wearing a gorgeous gown, you want to be in a tux.
     
  4. Shambles

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    Perfect, I'm sticking to my guns with that one. And yes, I do have a date. Yes, she will be wearing a gown. And no, I do not have a tux, nor do I want to rent one on such short notice. I'm going to have to start looking to purchase one, but in the meantime, I'm just trying to look my best so people don't think she's totally out of my league tomorrow.

    But let's be honest, a 5'7" blonde haired blue eyed thin girl is going to grab all the attention anyway. I could probably show up in underwear. [​IMG]
     
  5. Veremund

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    Wear a black, satin tie with your suit. Anything other than that and you'll look much more underdressed than the others.
     
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  6. random-adam

    random-adam Well-Known Member

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    I invest in quality properly-fitted clothing primarily because I enjoy the look and confidence it grants me -- but also to avoid embarrassing my wife. :)

    I'd reiterate ridethecliche's advice above: a crisp white pocket square (linen or cotton, not silk) would really cap off the outfit. If you don't have one, I think even a plain handkerchief from Jos Bank would look better than nothing. Kent Wang's twenty-buck special has done right by me.
     
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  7. ridethecliche

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    I'd defer to verebund for the tie advice, but try both when she's there and see which goes better with the ensemble. I'm not a betting man, but I have a feeling he's right.
     
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  8. Shambles

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    I'll do a white pocket square with it; I have a few nice ones. And yes, I completely agree with your first point; I love dressing well as often as possible. I'm just facing a last minute situation this time in which all I can do is wear a nice fitting suit rather than an ill-fitting rental tux. Like I said yesterday (probably a page or so back), this is the first of many engagements like this, and I'm fairly young, so I don't currently own a tux but am now in the market for one, as I'll probably have a few of these last minute invitations fall into my lap each year.

    My question about the scarf was unanswered, I believe. I'm in the South, but we're talking cold weather as far as the South is concerned. As it stands, I'm going navy suit, white shirt, white PS, and either the black tie or maroon with brown pattern. Can I get a few opinions on the tie choice and whether or not a scarf would be appropriate?

    I guess at this point I should just come out and say this: I've only just started updating my wardrobe from "college athlete" (sweatpants, hoodies, university shirts, etc) to proper men's clothes as of last year. I've come a long way, but still have a ways to go. So I'm honestly looking for all opinions on things like this to help now and later. As a sartorial newborn, I appreciate all advice.
     
  9. Veremund

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    I agree with you, but for the daytime. At night, shades of colours are lost, so the high contrast of black and white shows best.
     
  10. Veremund

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    For nighttime occasions, you'll always be well-served with a white shirt and white pocket square, and a dark (navy) suit and black tie. And in the daytime, you can't really ever go wrong with that same navy suit. So tip number one is to have a sharp navy suit that is very well-tailored. If you got that, you're sitting pretty.
     
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  11. michaelyork

    michaelyork Well-Known Member

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    Can someone tell me what type of coat this is? This is not a duffel, is it?

    It's herringbone wool. There is no vent at the back, and no belt or faux-belt or belt-like stitching at the back in the waist area.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. WickedKlown

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    With a white pocket square, is it ok to have a colored edge on it? Also is a very light or light blue shirt ok for a black pinstripe suit.
     
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  13. TweedyProf

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    I'm torn about this jacket. Crappy pic, but it's a light brown/tan POW with sky blue overcheck. Unstructured. Fit is not bad: ok at shoulders and chest, I think, could be nipped at the waist. Button stance is a little higher than I would like but the picture exaggerates that a bit (3roll2). Sleeve needs to be taken in a touch,, quarter inch. Blue shirt would look beater, but I was wearing white today.

    Question: I can't really think of trousers. The trouser there is a light gray flannel; navy would work perhaps, but I don't have any navy wool trousers. White or even cream, but that seems too restrictive. Maybe dark brown, or possibly even charcoal. But versatility is an issue.

    Thoughts?
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    Originally Posted by WickedKlown [​IMG]

    It can be.
    I'll refrain from suggesting that the only thing okay for a black pinstripe suit is fire, since I see no need to return to the whole "black suit is terrible/black suit is fine" thing for the thousandth time. So for the sake of argument, let's say a black pinstripe suit is an acceptable choice. Such being the case, I suppose a very light blue shirt can be okay. And I specify "very light," since typically, with a suit, one will tend to be much better off wearing very light shirt colors. As a general sort of guideline, the darker the shirt, the worse the man will look. (And before anyone jumps in and insists that this isn't always, 100% true, let me point out that that's why I wrote "typically" and "general sort," as opposed to "without exception" and "universal.") Personally, if I wore black pinstripe suits, I think I'd usually wear them with white shirts, rather than colored shirts. And opt for adding a splash of color in the form of a tie or a pocket square (possibly picking up the color of the pinstripes, assuming the pinstripes aren't white or grey), in order to keep the whole thing from looking overly monochrome and severe. But as I don't wear black pinstripe suits, I won't claim to have given this matter any great amount of thought.
     
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    I'm hoping for some good answers here, too, because I see a lot of jackets I like in this vein but they don't appear to be very versatile at all. Putting this against charcoal or dark brown just does not look right to my eyes. I think light beige, cream, light and mid greys (not charcoal), some blues, olive shades ... those would all seem to work. Just curious if there are more opinions.
     
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  16. WickedKlown

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    Thanks for the reply. One of the reason I went with a black pinstripe suit is I've always liked them, my wife likes them. The shirt I have is a light powder blue.
     
  17. ridethecliche

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    Hoping someone sees this. Thanks!
     
  18. NewbieInFashion

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    Can anyone find me a shawl neck cardigan like this one? I want this exact color and cheap.
    [​IMG]


    Thanks!
     
  19. TweedyProf

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    I think very light colors will work though I didn't try. The combination in the pic is ok, but didn't jump out at me as "yes, definitely". A similar coat for spring, in cream or white would work well, but again, that's a specific pair of trousers that might not be more generally useful for people with limited resources.

    I like a rich olive as a suggestion. I had tried mid gray, but the tones are too close so no go. Charcoal also didn't look right. I think a certain darker brown might work, but not ideal. Navy might, but again: olive, navy or white. Works well if you have an expansive wardrobe wrt trousers, which I don't. Those colors for trousers seem narrow in their use to me.

    Having thought about it a little more, I think that this isn't the sort of jacket that serves as one of one's first set of jackets. So, it's going back.

    Still, I'm with TM79, about other suggestions for trouser colors.
     
  20. TweedyProf

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    One more thing about that jacket. It is not constructed, no shoulder padding. What's amazing is that I have a terrible bump on both shoulders due to the way that my shoulders are built, but that is barely visible. With some jackets that I have with reasonable shoulder padding, you can see the bump. What amazes me is that it is possible to tailor a jacket to deal with one's shoulders, even without the benefits of shoulder pads. And this in a RTW jacket.
     

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