1. Welcome to the new Styleforum!

    We hope you’re as excited as we are to hang out in the new place. There are more new features that we’ll announce in the near future, but for now we hope you’ll enjoy the new site.

    We are currently fine-tuning the forum for your browsing pleasure, so bear with any lingering dust as we work to make Styleforum even more awesome than it was.

    Oh, and don’t forget to head over to the Styleforum Journal, because we’re giving away two pairs of Carmina shoes to celebrate our move!

    Please address any questions about using the new forum to support@styleforum.net

    Cheers,

    The Styleforum Team

    Dismiss Notice

Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

Tags:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,370
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    I don't think it is fair to say that they are essentially the same shoe as the McTavish. Apart from the same broguing pattern, they are a completely different animal. Different upper leather, no lining, single sole rather than a double sole. The McTavish will be a substantially more durable shoe in the long run.
     
  2. elbastardocalvo

    elbastardocalvo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    333
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Location:
    The 215
    

    Excellent. I'm wearing mine today too.
     
  3. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,370
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    This topic always turns into a bit of this: [​IMG] That said, what the other gentlemen have said here has merits without question, and I am not seeking to argue with them. However, if a shoe fits you and is completely comfortable to you, then the creases can't be a deal breaker. Too much emphasis is placed on the creases falling in the "correct" location, but we are talking about ready to wear shoes fitting feet that are all different and have their subtle nuances. We aren't in the bespoke shoe world here. Therefore everyone's creasing will be different, and often the creases will even be different between your two feet. There are MANY factors that come into play regarding where a shoe will crease, and the way the shoe fits you is only one of them. For my individual case, I am a 10.5D, but that size on the 5-Last causes creasing below the cap toe for me in the Strand. Conveniently, the often bashed low cap line on the Fifth Avenue and Park Avenue actually allows them to crease in the "correct" location on my feet. For the Strand, I discovered that an 11 C actually fits comfortably enough, and allows the crease to fall in the right zone, but it is dangerously close to the upper brogue line near the laces. You have to make an individual decision, but to a degree, if the shoe fits wear it. The Style Forum Kool-Aid says that the creases have to be in the perfect location to be acceptable, but in the real world your shoes will take on a unique character of their own and your comfort when wearing the shoes is the most important factor. People walking by you on the sidewalk aren't going to look down and say "nice shoes, your creases are wrong."
     
    1 person likes this.
  4. N8ter

    N8ter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    61
    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Does this imply that if the shoes are too short for you, you will get creasing further out on the toe because your ball is too far forward in the shoe?
     
  5. spitshine123

    spitshine123 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    382
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2011
    Did not mean to poke the bear [​IMG]. What I meant to convey was that if they fit comfortably, then keep the shoe... but in agreement with PsiPsi, being sized by an AE associate is by no means a definite guide as to what size is right for you. I have a pair of moras with some creasing on the toe cap, but they are one of my favorite shoes nonetheless! Wear your strands in good health Hybrid.
     
  6. random-adam

    random-adam Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,173
    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2008
    Location:
    20781
    

    Truth be told, it would have been in impulse purchase; my brown Byrons work at least as well with the seersucker or linen suits for which I'd've ordered a pair of navy Neumoks, and it's easier to find a matching belt. :satisfied:

    Someday, though, there will be a webgem I must have (cappuccino shell, possibly...) and I'll test the local AE store's ability to order it in an off-list size.
     
  7. Karl Drogo

    Karl Drogo Active Member

    Messages:
    37
    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2013
  8. mp906

    mp906 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    134
    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Last round of sale hauls:


    Daltons, Amoks, Kenilworths.

    All 13D except the Amoks are 12E...this a long and extremely NARROW shoe. I'm using a shoe-tree with a thick sock over it to stretch them out a bit...the suede is also very thin. I see why these are discontinued. For $99, I am not complaining though. They'll get worn.
    [​IMG]
    Sorry for the shitty iphone pic.
     
  9. random-adam

    random-adam Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,173
    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2008
    Location:
    20781
    

    This has been knocking around in the back of my head for the last several months, so last weekend I tried a poor-man's version of the technique above.

    I wadded up a very small portion of old cotton t-shirt and screwed it to the end of a Dremel attachment, then went to town with that contraption (set to the lowest spindle speed) on my shell Daltons. No photos at the moment -- but the MacGyvering was justified by the end result. It wasn't quite torquey enough to work up a real shine but the surface is much better than it used to be, and my arm doesn't feel like it's going to fall off from brushing.
     
    2 people like this.
  10. spitshine123

    spitshine123 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    382
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2011
    A video if you going to town on your daltons would be greatly appreciated [​IMG]
     
    1 person likes this.
  11. sevenfoldtieguy

    sevenfoldtieguy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,292
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    Location:
    ND
    

    I have them both, in the colors you mention. The Walton is on the 3-73 last so make sure you know your size in that last. The 3-73 is used sparingly, and currently AE's website indicates it is being used in only two of its offerings - Walton and Broadstreet. It is completely different than the 5 last (Strand). IMO, the brown shell Strand may be AE's best shoe.
     
  12. TurboTropic

    TurboTropic Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    153
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    

    Thanks for the comments all.

    So, if you don't mind me asking, what do you wear them with? I wear suits Monday to Thursday and business casual on Friday. My normal rotation Monday to Thursday is black captoes (Meermin) and walnut Strands (AE) with something a bit more casual on Friday like a brown suede chukka.
     
  13. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,370
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    Ha ha, not at all. I fully agree with everything you both said, just in case I didn't explain myself well. I was just trying to say that if the shoe fits properly and is comfortable, it shouldn't be thrown out simply because the SF Kool-Aid says that the creases aren't ideal. I have several pairs that aren't creasing in the ideal location, but I love them and wear them with pride without hesitation. The guy down the hall wearing Rockports has no room to comment on a crease on my shoes.
     
  14. maxmaxmaxmax

    maxmaxmaxmax Active Member

    Messages:
    25
    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    

    I've just ordered a pair of the Strand in bourbon into a local store. They won't be here for 4-6 weeks. In the meantime, I've been looking at various pics on the web of these shoes. I've noticed that in most pictures they look like a brown colour in between the brown burnished calf and the walnut, which is just what I'm after. In other pics, such as the "indoor" shot linked above, they look like they have a yellow-green undertone, which I don't particularly like. This can be seen in other pics of bourbon shoes on occasion as well.

    Could owners of the recent bourbon coloured shoes from AE comment on which tends to be a more "true" representation of the colour? There are so many variables over the net including the colour balance of my monitors.

    Thanks in advance for your replies.

    J

    Apologies for posting this same post again, but since I'm "new here", my posts end up 3 pages back due to the moderation process.
     
  15. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,370
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    The 3-73 is their widest last. Mine are comfortably roomy and I really enjoy their fit. I think the girth of the last gives them the comfortable roomy feel that you would expect from a gunboat shoe like an Alden Barrie last, while looking more elegant due to the more tapered toe. In fact, that's how I describe the fit of the Walton... They feel like gunboats especially with the double sole, but when you look down, they look more refined and ready to be dressed up.
     
  16. donjuan17

    donjuan17 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,182
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2013
    Location:
    Kailua, H.I.
    Sure thing.
    These are some I posted before:
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    They do have a bit of an elongated last to them but that just adds an Italian look to them IMO
    Great shoe nonetheless.
     
  17. elbastardocalvo

    elbastardocalvo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    333
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Location:
    The 215
    

    I may be bucking the trend, but I'm wearing them with a great suit today. Perhaps not SF approved, but I like the look.
     
  18. tjyoung

    tjyoung Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    171
    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2013
    Do you not buckle the top buckle when you wear these? I'm curious as I have the Neumora.
     
  19. Cold Iron

    Cold Iron Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,331
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2011
    Location:
    Minnesota
    And thank you very much for the PM good sir!

    I have the Walnut Shell Strand's and the toe caps are dark, close enough to the Brown Shell Strand's that purchasing them would be redundant for me. Great shoe, and I think a great choice.
    Yes I have some AE with new and old finish. The newer I like a lot more for the most part. However I have to admit that neither one compares to the Alden glossy finish, however that is based only on one pair. But judging by the comments of several people on here think that is the case in general. That doesn't mean that I still don't love AE shell however... [​IMG]
    Outstanding! I read a few weeks ago that Dremel actually sold a shoe shine attachment at one time. Yeah I know what you mean by arm falling off. Yesterday morning woke up early and couldn't get back to sleep so brushed 2 pair of shoes for an hour and a half. In the end it was worth it but it takes a lot of work to get there. One pair I did was the walnut shell Dalton's which I am wearing today. I DID get the memo that today was wear your Dalton's day. Crappy indoor picture with even worse lighting:

    [​IMG]
     
  20. donjuan17

    donjuan17 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,182
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2013
    Location:
    Kailua, H.I.
    Was yesterday the universal insomniac shoe polish day?
    I did the same thing with two pairs of mine. I was experimenting a bit with spit shine techniques.
    Don't have any pics since the shoes are at home and i'm at work.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by