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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. bucksfan

    bucksfan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the rest of the (especially shell) updates. All the outlet stores are tied together with the shoe bank on their computers - so it does not matter where you order from. It just happens that the Jeffersonville, OH location ordered all the Wolverine boots, and they had arrived the same day I was there, stopping by. I had not seen them, so I took a pic and figured I'd post it up. Seems like a number of gentlemen here are glad I did [​IMG]

    Thanks! I'll look into those, once I decide whether I'm keeping one other pair of shoes I recently bought.

    They seemed to be very thick, oily leather. I would care for them the same way as chromexcel / cordovan. I.e. mostly brushing, but when product is needed, use it sparingly, and try to color-match. Having seen them firsthand, I would want them to darken up a little, so I would probably use burgundy wax. (FYI they had some of that for $1 per tin when I was there).
     
  2. catside

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    Bucksfan. First thanks.
    Maybe the reason they are seconds is the color !
     
  3. Ketawa

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    Yes, these are the same shoes. Will shortening in length also help with the laces being too tight? I'm not sure if I should go to 13C or 13D.
     
  4. bucksfan

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    Here are my bayfields last night, at the zoo (seeing the lights) with my family (riding the carousel at the time).


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  5. bucksfan

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    Yes it will, because everything about the shoe will become smaller. Going one full size down is a pretty good step - I would start with the D's first, then go to the C's If you still have problems. (I know, it's frustrating especially with mail ordering the shoes, but fit is most important.)


    Edit: I'll also add that for some reason the Park Ave seems to be the largest 5-last shoe that AE makes. It makes no sense, since it's on the same last... but they run (somewhat) noticeably larger than my cambridges, strands, or new Amsterdam (Mcallister under a different name).
     
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    On the other side, sometimes we develop new leathers because we think they will just look, feel and turn out really well. Relatively recently we had the thought – “what if we take a top quality cowhide and tan it with the same liquor we use to tan shell cordovan?” We’re kind of up there with Heinz and the upside-down-ketchup-bottle idea on this one. While it’s a little more complicated than just changing packaging, we should’ve thought of it much sooner…

    Like any development it almost never works out perfectly the first time through. But, after a solid 2 – 3 years of trials and production runs, we’ve nailed it. The leather already has a handful of iterations, but the base tannage is called Essex. It’s a rich, full grain leather that utilizes the same blends of extracts that we use in our shell cordovan. It’s already available in a handful of products, and I personally think that the new Libero Ferrero shows off the character of the leather beautifully. This, in addition to themselves being amazing bags. Matt Lafferty was kind enough to let me take some photos of the finished product.

    A waxed version of the leather, named Dublin, can also be found in many products in the Allen Edmonds Rough Collection.


    I guess you are right bucksfan

    rest of the blog post:

    http://horween.com/leathers/essex-and-dublin/#more-799
     
  7. fashionnoob

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    Can anyone speak to the fit of the Wolverine 744 Ltd in Shell Cordovan? If I'm a 12 D on the AE 5 last (Park Ave, Fifth Ave, Strand) with a relatively narrow foot, (ie, I can close the laces fully with no gap showing on those shoes), would a 12D in the 744 Ltd work, as well?
     
  8. Cold Iron

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    Yes I think it should work well for you in 12D. I am a 10D on the 1 and 5 last with very little gap on most shoes on the 5 (especially shell), right foot is brannock 10D and left is 10.5D. In addition I have a very low volume foot. A little bit shy of D but I'm no longer a C any more, and the 10.5 is just shy also. The 744 LTD in 10D fits me about as perfectly as you can get. And is a great choice IMO.


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    Those AE for RL boots that bucksfan posted are also starting to look good. Can't believe I am even considering a panel boot. I really need to stay off this thread....
     
  9. patrick_b

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    I've always heard to size down by 1/2 on the Wloverine 1K boots (from your brannock/measured size). They should fit like the standard & last year's limited edition 1k boot.
     
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    i'm confused, if i'm a 10D in the 8 and 5 lasts, what size do i order for the Krause?
     
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    Yup, that's one of the best looking boots I've ever seen. How are you taking care of them? I'm planning on using saphir renovateur for mine with no additional polish.
     
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    I'm an 8D in the 1 last (Dalton) and a 7.5D in the 5 (Strand). I was advised to go with a 7.5D for the Krause. We will see...
     
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    thanks man. that's the info i was looking for. hope the krauses work out for everyone!!! :slayer:
     
  14. Cold Iron

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    While that is true for most 1K boots the 744 is on a different last. Wingtip says size down a half for the 744 and I disagree. And so does Leffot. TTS in the 744 is about equal to going down a half in the 1K original or my RW Beckman's IME.

    http://leffot.com/2012/09/20/wolverine-744-ltd/

    Reno of course [​IMG]. But also Alden Defender. Because I am wearing them in the winter I waited a few days and after several polishings of the defender have a coat of Saphir Cordovan clear shoe polish on over that. So far it has worked fantastic. Most shell shoes and boots I just use defender but I am careful of the elements when wearing them.
     
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    Whats the contact number for this Jefferson outlet? I want some.

    NVM googled it :)

    Damn you guys. Ordered a 9 in Rust on the way...
     
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    Hello there guys. I have been lurking for a while and have a few questions for the community.

    This winter I will be doing an accounting internship with a business casual dress code (button down, dress slacks, dress shoes). I had heard that PA's were a good staple, so I recently got my first pair of AE's on Black Friday - a pair of black PA's at the outlet (they look flawless for seconds). Is the black color a good choice for the business casual dress code, or would I be best serve with a different color for daily wear, such as brown or walnut? Or perhaps a different style shoe all together, as PA's can be very formal. I'll be wearing them daily for a few weeks, until I get my first paycheck to get a second pair.

    My other question is if the shoes I got fit well. To me, they feel a little tight, and look like it compared to other pictures on this forum. I got a 9D which the outlet salesman assisted me with, but I have a feeling I should go to a 9E. I have barely worn them in case I need to return them. What do you guys think? (Excuse the lacing, I'm not sure how to lace them the correct way for the style)

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    Thanks in advance, you all really seem to know your stuff. As a college kid getting ready for the real world, I'm all ears!
     
  17. zazadojo

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    Just ordered my 10.5 in rust with no wait at all.
     
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    For what it's worth, I'm an 11E in the 5-last and my 744 LTDs are a 10.5D. I am truly between a D and E width, but need the extra size if I walk a lot and my foot swells. As the 744 is unlined, it has slightly more room than a standard D width.

    I'd also mention that I purchased my 744 LTD as a "second," had an obviously manufacturing defect (other than the visual defect I knew about) and neither AE nor Wolverine will stand behind the 744 LTD seconds. Buyer beware.
     
  19. kmdsimpson

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    Can you elaborate on the defects? This is good to know.
     
  20. Karembeu

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    Where do you guys shop for factory seconds? I tried looking up the shoe bank on AE's site but keep getting errors when trying to "shop now" at the shoe bank. Is there a particular site where you can shop the shoe bank online without having to call?
     
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