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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. BootSpell

    BootSpell Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I don't have a response or solution to your issue but I have to comment that I have been having similar thoughts about the materialism that has crept into my habits. I seem to have restraint in not going overboard on purchases but just the desire bothers me somehow. I haven't decided how I'm going to address this issue for myself. I enjoy reading the threads and the camaraderie but the enthusiasm and joy of other posters' purchases can't but have an effect.

    I hope you are able to resolve the bleach issue. But thanks for posting. Not sure I should say "welcome back".
     
  2. 7_rocket

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    I understand what you mean. It's even worse when I read the posts from "traditionalists" about certain items like not liking zip up sweaters etc. Not to be a jerk but when I read certain posts more so in the WIWT thread I just laugh at the sheer ridiculousness.

    It's just clothes and shoes at the end of the day and when I log out of SF I realize wait people actually don't care that my pants might be a hair too long or I'm wearing walnut strands with a navy suit when the rule says black shoes with a navy suit.

    I have 5 dress shoes and now starting to SLOWLY build my casual shoe wardrobe. Everyone thinks I"m crazy for having 5 pairs of dress shoes, imagine when I get my casual shoes going :happy:
     
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  3. hohneokc

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    Just a suggestion on your boot issue - try AE Shoe Cream
    http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF560_1_40000000001_-1?style=507

    I had a pair of burgundy shoes that got a scuff - didn't damage the leather, but took the color off. Regular carnauba polish was not helping. My local menswear / shoe store recommended the burgundy shoe cream due to its high dye content. The salesperson recommended putting a dab of the shoe cream on the spot and letting it sit for a while. I did that for about 1 minute and it got better. I did it for about 5 minutes and it fixed the problem. Apparently letting it sit on the leather allows the dye to absorb into the leather.

    Maybe try the light brown and see what happens. Just dab it on the spots - maybe use a q-tip - and let it sit for about 5 minutes. Then you can maybe put the cream on the entire boot and buff off after about a minute to even it out.

    Good luck

    Chris
     
  4. Nolaman

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    I am looking for a jack of all trades shoe and have had my eye on a pair of Mcgregor's for a while now. I wears suits to work but would also like to wear them more casually with jeans. I was pretty set on bourbon but due to a thread recommendation of the Chili I am now not sure. First, do you think the Mcgregors can be worn with a suit and with jeans? If so, what color do you think is the most versatile?

    Thanks!
     
  5. OptoDoc

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    Thank you kindly. I will certainly try this and report back.
     
  6. tyort1

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    Use some polish slightly darker than the walnut color and it'll get covered up nicely.
     
  7. mw313

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    They are correct in that you should always follow the heel to ball length because that is the most important part of the fit in terms of length. That is where our foot bends and should go with the same part of the shoe which helps you in propulsion of your gait as well as protects both your feet and the shoes integrity. Don't foget that the shank is under the arch part of the shoe so if your for doesn't bend with the shank you can damage the shoe or even cause harm to your foot over time.

    You should only use overall length as a guide unless it is longer than your heel to ball. you may have to increase the shoe length because it also isn't good to not have enough room at the front of your shoe. The "rule of thumb" literally applies here in terms of a thumbs width. Some like a little less and some even like a bit more. If the heel to ball length is substantially longer than the relationship to overall length, the only problem if the shoe is way too long in front of the toes. Then there may be more wear on the front of the shoe's outsole.

    My heel to ball is a full size longer than my overall length so I can wear a whole size different from one last to another within AE alone. I wear a 14 in the 5 last but a 15 in the 7 last due to the tighter toe.

    That is why you need to go by heel to ball first and overall length second. Just learn your sizes in each last that works for your foot.
    That is just length. Width and volume are actually even more complicated so that can be saved for another time because it was tough enough to type all of this from my iPhone.
     
  8. Cheuk

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    Ok, I tried this on the general Q&A but no love, and I thought, why not try on my favorite thread... To respect the thread and convey my true love of AE, I have crossed out shows that I might or might not actually have, and put the closest AE model that an AE-fan purer than myself would have.

    So... I need to purge at least three pairs of shoes from this lineup (guess why). I'm having trouble so coming to you for some wise insight.

    At work I am generally business casual, wear a suit (either navy or charcoal) occasionally. Jeans and cords on weekends.

    Black Captoe Bal (AE Park Ave)
    Merlot Wingtip Bals (AE McAlister)
    burgundy Shell cordovan Plain Toe Bluchers (AE Leeds)
    burgundy Shell cordovan long wings (old Florsheims) (AE MacNeil)
    burgundy Shell Cordovan Penny Loafers (Alden LHS) (AE Patriot)
    Brown captoe bluchers (Alden for BB) (AE Lexington)
    Walnut "medallion perforated captoe" bals (Alfred Sargent for BB) (this in walnut) (Slightly less embellished AE Strand)
    this weird kiltie monkstrap that for some reason I can't get myself to return (C&J for black fleece, talk me out of it please, they're new and unworn still) (http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Dark-Brown-Kiltie-Wingtip/FH00035,default,pd.html) (AE Montague???)

    What shoed go?
     
  9. peppercorn78

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    This is all good info, but I have to point out that AE shoes don't contain shanks. I learned this in a recent Reddit with Paul Grangaard. The invention of a shankless shoe manufacturing process was one of the company's founding ideas. Paul says they experimented with adding shanks in the now defunct "executive collection" years ago, but ultimately discontinued their use.
     
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    EDIT: @peppercorn78 beat me to it.

    AE actually doesn't use shanks in construction. The structure of the shoe comes from the 360 degree goodyear welt. Everything else you said is correct though :)


    Kyle
     
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    Florsheims, Walnut captoes and CJ kiltie monks.

    You're welcome! ;)
     
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    Rocking my favorite casual-ish AEs, and also my inaugural pair, the chili calf/grain Regent Street.

    Love chili, and not just because I'm Texan. I really dig how they appear brown indoors, but red in direct sunlight (swoon)

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    I got to say the same color but changing texture on those is pretty rad.
     
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    I'd definitely return that kiltie wingtip monkstrap monstrosity.
     
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    I am wearing mine today as well. Before I got them I was a little dubious about the mixture of textures, but once I saw them in person I was hooked. As you said, it is a great casual-ish shoe.
     
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    Thanks gentlemen. I agree the dual texture effect is really killing. Anyone out there down for a chil calf/grain Dalton gmto ;)

    The 4 last is rather tricky, being so narrow for a LWB. Ended up going up .5 in length. With a tongue pad, I got a perfect fit. Mine will need a resole soon. Wondering if the last is too sleek for a double sole?
     
  17. mry8s

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    Not replying directly, but wanted to follow up on my fitment.

    I am used to much wider shaped shoes than the 65 last is designed to be. I put on a different pair of more casual "dress" shoes and lo and behold and some other cliches, the toe was an inch away from my big toe. I just simply hadn't paid attention to it before.

    So I'm confident the Neumok's are sized properly and they are exceptionally comfy in suede. I think I'll hang on to them and wear them as soon as temps reliably stay above 40. Maybe 45.
     
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    (1) Return the kiltie monkstrap. I'd have a hard time parting with anything else, particularly the shell, and the other colors cover the spectrum. (2) I love my wingtip bals, even though some believe them to be a style clash. Your medallion cap toe bals, long wings and multiple burgundy shells offer several options to wear in situations where those would be worn, so those would be the next out on my list. That's assuming the Florsheim long wings are made in the USA Imperials; if not, I'd consider eBaying those and keeping the wingtips. (3) Unless you frequently wear pants that match brown, but won't match #8, the cap toe bluchers are next.
     
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    Thanks for the info but yes I know that AE doesn't use shanks. I have read the post from Paul Grangaard in the past. That is how AE was founded.
    What I was doing was just explaining the general things for him to look at for fit in terms of length. Just about all other "nice" shoe brands use a shank (SS, fiberglass, wood, etc.) but AE uses the 360 degree welt (instead of the 270 degree that most others use) to keep the shoe together in a different way while reducing break in time.

    Thanks for the info and please don't take this he wrong way, but I think he cares a bit more about proper fit of his shoes at this point even though this is an AE thread.
     
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    Those kiltie things have way too much going on, even though I think it would be cool to have Black Fleece. I also vote to axe the penny loafer. Shell is of course great, but that style is the go to for those who lack any. I like the look of dress or semi-dress shoes with casual pants.
     
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