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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. ejomby

    ejomby Active Member

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    Any particular reason why they made the shell Dalton's without lining? What's the overall effect of doing so?
     
  2. g.michael

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    great comparison--really shows the color differences. Thanks for doing that!
     
  3. g.michael

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    Interesting piece of info from yesterday.

    Placed an order for Cappuccino cordovan McGraws on March 5, the last day to do so. These had a promised delivery date of March 26th. I checked my AE account yesterday morning and they still said "backordered". Called up customer service and according to their system, they were waiting on the cordovan leather and that after they received the leather it would take about 7 biz days to make the shoes. Now her system (like many systems) may not actually capture what is happening on the factory floor so I am waiting until Monday to see what happens. Will post an update then. If they don't arrive, it simply means i get to hold onto my $575 longer. It wouldn't upset me too much but would hope to learn what led to the delay. AE may surprise me though so I have to wait until COB Monday (the 26th) before doing anything.
     
  4. Cold Iron

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    I took my shell Dalton's to my cobbler to see if he could help with the loose heel fit in mine and mentioned to him that it was almost like they had planned to line them then didn't at the last minute, and that would explain the larger volume in the heel area. He pointed out to me that actually they are lined in the heel area. However if you look inside the boot you can see the area forward of the heel allows light to actually pass through (greatly dimmed of course) the holes in the brouquing. I have never found shell to be hot in the summer but then again I live in Mn. I would think these boots will be comfortable in the summer too as thin as the shell is, but I only wear dress boots from fall through early spring. Until I can find the perfect chukka anyhow.
     
  5. kmdsimpson

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    I don't know the reason for being unlined, but it seems to be quite common for shell boots in general, not just on AEs. For example, the RL Lindrick boot, made by C&J, I believe (could be AS), is unlined; people were talking about hoping to get the Horween stamp.

    Edit: And the Wolverine 1000 mile limited editions in shell are also unlined...

    I don't know if it's boots only, but my shell MacNeils are fully lined - the inside looks exactly the same as the calf version.

    Maybe the shell is thicker, and so having the lining go up the ankle would make the boot too bulky? Just guessing.
     
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    And at least it is the same on both shoes. It would bother me if that was only the case on one shoe.
     
  7. patrick_b

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    Couple of quick pictures of my recent shell acquisitions. Purchased the Leeds yesterday at the Freeport store for the low, low promotional price and the 1st quality Macneil were purchased last month during the first round of shell discount, which was $100 more than this month's promotion. I'm pleased with both.

    A note on sizing. The #7 last on the Macneil is a bit narrower so I had to size up a 1/2 size from my brannock measurement to a 11.5D. The #1 lasted Leeds is much roomier in the toe box. That additional room coupled with the blucher lacing allowed me to go TTS at 11D. For reference, my blucher Kenilworth in #5 last is also a 11D. Bluchers work better with my high instep/high volume foot.

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    Image above in direct sunlight. Images below in shade (both conditions are accurate).

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    Macneil worn about a dozen times and a coat of Saphir Renovateur applied in addition to hours of brushing. The leeds had some sort of slightly tacky black substance on the toe. Renovateur took that off. I just wore them outside for a few minutes today (after ensuring they fit well) to scuff the sole a bit.

    That is IT! No more shoe purchases in the foreseeable future...I don't care how good the sale is [​IMG].
     
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    I was amazed at how different the color of my burgundy Leeds is in the sun vs shade or indoor lighting.
     
  9. bucksfan

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    Patrick, love the pics! Those MacNeils look very well kept - As you probably found out, once the "bloom" stops, they are easy to keep clean and looking good. (the hours of brushing diminishes in my experience). Enjoy those shells!
     
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    [​IMG] New Brown Cordovan Strand (with flash) [​IMG] AE Brown vs. Alden Cigar (no flash) [​IMG] AE Brown vs. Alden Cigar (medium flash)
     
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    So from this you would say the 7 last is narrower than the 5 last?
     
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    Very true. In looking at my images above, both conditions are fairly accurate but the sun brings out the red/maroon. In shade or indoors, they seem much more brown.


    Thanks bucksfan. You are right about the blooming, the Leeds don't seem to have much but they haven't really been worn either. The Macneil's blooming went away after a couple of wears and then the brushing really brought out the luster from the shell itself and the waxes and oils.
     
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    Wow those kick serious ass!

    Of Alden's shell colors (aside from #8), I always thought cigar was the most versatile. I liked the others but couldn't see myself buying anything other than cigar. That said, the brown AE shell is fantastically close to cigar. I love it! I'm sure you'll enjoy those. Thanks for the comparison shots, that's extremely helpful.
     
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    Good question. I think the #5 is still narrower (narrowest perhaps?) but also longer. The #7's narrow spot caused the snugness right at my little toe, while the #5's started to narrow just forward of the widest part of my foot. Therefore I could go TTS. Hope that makes sense. My feet are a PIA as the right is almost a half size longer than the left and slightly wide and have a high instep.
     
  15. Quadcammer

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    those strands are outstanding
     
  16. CJG_NYC

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    Those Cordovan Strands are gorgeous!

    To stray from the Shell conversation for just a minute I could use some advice. My birthday is this weekend and I'm thinking of treating myself to a more casual pair of AEs. I do NOT have any suede shoes and I would love a pair - however I also really like the Neumok.

    So the question:

    Go for Neumok or Player? If I pick Neumok, what do we all think of the snuff suede option (it seems the stitching is lighter than the snuff version of the Player). If I go Neumok and go with Calf what color? I was thinking I like the Olive. However, I think the real question is if I'm going to go with suede should I do the Player or the Neumok?

    Thanks!
     
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    Although both colors are very similar, I have to admit that my Alden Cigar boots have a glossier finish. Maybe my Strands are just new but I will see how they compare after I get some mileage on the Strands. Overall I'm very happy with them and waiting on the burgundy Cambridge. At this rate I might have to end up and pick some Leeds next week!
     
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    I say Player, but they are so different. I know you said casual. The Neumok is really rustic looking. The Player to me looks so much cooler and more versatile. You could wear them casually, but also wear them out to dinner and bars and such and look good.
     
  19. patrick_b

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    That's an excellent question and one I've considered as well. I think the suede version of the Players and Neumok are both fine choices but I like the blucher Players a bit more than the balmoral Neumok. It's just personal preference but since it's a casual warm weather shoe, I always thought a suede blucher would be a perfect spring/summer shoe, more so than a bal but that's just one man's opinion. I also think the colored laces are a nice touch. Incidentally, Edward, Freeport Store Mgr was wearing the snuff suede Players yesterday when I got the Leeds. He even had some nice red laces. I thought it was a great looking shoe and with the 80 degree weather we've had for the last couple of weeks, I was tempted. I haven't seen the Neumok in person however, so that could be a factor to consider. Neither's a bad choice, that's for sure. I've been seeing lots of Navy suede around the forum lately and the Players is available in navy. That may look nice.

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    Happy Birthday! Mine's next month...I'm quickly approaching middle age...42 is middle aged, isn't it? I think I am in fact middle aged now. [​IMG]
     
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  20. PhiPsi32

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    The Neumok and Players Shoe are both good choices. Go with the one that fits better. The #2 last on the Players Shoe is narrower in the toe box. This may or may not be a problem.
     
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