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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. polojock615

    polojock615 Well-Known Member

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    I have older pics; nothing within the past six months or so, but enjoy:

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    This is probably 15 pairs or so ago:

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  2. NWTeal

    NWTeal Well-Known Member

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    @chinngiskhaan regards to your question about the number and frequency of seconds, I have to raise the question regarding the competency and experience of those involved in AE's manufacturing process.

    From my understanding alot of the common flaws from seconds and even firsts is that we see uneven pinking/stitching, crooked lasting and bulging. Bulging, I think has been discussed at great length, and the culprit seems to be AE's manufacturing process. Stitching, pinking and general crookedness is more of a user error from the shoe crafts(wo)men at AE in Port Washington or the Domican Republic.

    Now I'm not sure if in the DR they do the pinking and stitching, but I do recall that the workers there do make the uppers which I'm assuming is also to cut the patterns. From what it seems like, that doesn't seem to be the majority of the flaws we see in AE shoes. For the most part, the clickers seem to be doing a fine job following the set patterns. I'd imagine this isn't where most flaws occur since it's like cutting around a stencil (to put it in very simple terms).

    When the shoes are stiched, lasted and finished in PW, it seems like this is where there is the most room for error. This would mean that 1) this job might be more difficult and subject to the skill and judgment of the crafts(wo)man, or 2) there are not enough workers to keep up with demand which leads to less time allowed per shoe and less attention to detail or 3) the skill level of the employees is not as good enough to consistently produce near perfect shoes.

    My guess is a combination of all three, but one point I'd like to make that I think gets forgotten is that the ones making shoes at Vass, G&G and John Lobb are low volume and also very few and likely skilled craftspeople who have been doing it for years and maybe even as a family trade. My guess at AE is that alot of people are trained after being hired to work on the factory floor. I say this because I don't believe there is any way Port Washington has that many shoe makers who are experienced to keep up with the demand. I haven't visited the factory, but I have to imagine that not all the shoe makers are ones who've been doing it for 25 years or those brought up through apprenticeship.

    I think AE is unique in that their employees likely are newer at the craft, more likely to have turnover, have less time per shoe than many of these other makers and thus could produce more flawed shoes per employee. To me, this is the nature of the business and the sacrifices AE has to make to meet the demand and the price point they wish to sell their shoes at.

    This isn't a knock against AE, as I personally only own AE shoes. Not because I think they are the best out there, but I think they put out a pretty good product for the price, even at $345 (which I've never paid for). The others at this price range are either relatively new and untested (Paul Evans) or inconvenient due to lack of domestic presence (Meermin). I would eventually like to get some Carminas, Alden shells or C&Js but currently the value isn't there for me.

    I think overall we're pretty critical of shoes on this thread and like they say, bad news travels faster and I'd say more pervasively than good news. For every one person here that posts flaws in their first quality shoes, there are probably many more shoes AE produces with no real issues. I would say that AE could do a better job with some of our special make ups and there seems to be a disproportionate number being sent back, but I think that making one off shoes in a different material than their stock catalog might be more difficult than we think.

    This post went on alot longer than I originally planned and I rambled, but just my two cents on the whole AE flaws "issue". Also, I guess I started the whole debate a few days back about the acceptability of bowing with the post about my Delrays. Totally did not mean for that to happen....[​IMG]
     
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  3. kentyman

    kentyman Well-Known Member

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    That sounds more normal. :)
     
  4. doctorman

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    funny that's exactly what happened to me too. first bought the factory seconds trees at about $16 per. then found them at the rack for $13. finally resorted to the JAB at $8 per. turns out they are all made by more or less the same company with the same quality . wish i had joined this forum a little earlier...
     
  5. bl@ster

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    Yeah, yeah. Too late, I just kopped a pair :(
     
  6. sekman

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    Rather new here myself, are they regularly $8 from JAB? I have the AE trees with my pair of park aves. Thanks
     
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  7. doctorman

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    i've seen three for $25 (with free shipping and no tax) offered twice in the last three months.
     
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  8. mingus2112

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    Only when they have their 60%-70% or buy one, get two free sales. . .which is pretty much every other week!
     
  9. NicNac

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    Is anyone familiar with the Hampton?

    It is a discontinued Wingtip with combination of calf and grain leather. I want to make sure that it is not too casual looking to be wearing with a suit.

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
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    Harry Rosen? Robert Jones menswear? the Bay? None of them carry different widths?
     
  11. Indyoshi68

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    Uuummm...polojock615? DDAYYYUUMMMM!!!! That is absolutely BONKERS, my friend. You are THE MAN. [​IMG] You actually have a SHOERACK SKYSCRAPER!!! ...color me impressed.
     
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    I like the Hampton; because of the grain behind the wingtip, it looks a little more casual, but I would rock it with a suit in a heartbeat - although not my finest suit. Was gonna get it in brown, but wanted to get away from closed lacing/balmorals for a second to expand my options. At $159, which was what the ones I wanted cost at the time, it seems like a steal - especially if you are building a lineup. Do it! It's different, but dressy enough to fit in a lineup of dress shoes, IMO.
     
  13. natron20

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    Is the Long Branch in grey a discontinued model or can the still be had?

    Can anyone post some close up pics?
     
  14. bbob2013

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    I have the hampton in black and enjoy wearing them. Agree with above, a bit casual, but could work with a suit. They are solid and well made, and a good deal at closeout prices. I prefer other models over this, but at the price point it's hard to beat. Enjoy!
     
  15. NicNac

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    Thanks! I decided to order it in Brown. It was a way to fulfill my need for a brown shoe at a great price!

    Can the grain leather portion of the shoe be polished and shined like the calf? Not sure how to care for a grained leather.

    As always, all input is greatly appreciated!
     
  16. Indyoshi68

    Indyoshi68 Well-Known Member

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    Yessir.. I can do, again. I posted these earlier today!
    I understand it is discontinued - at least that's what the salesman said a few weeks ago when I wore mine into the store... "You must've gotten one of the last ones!"
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  17. Sprint76

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    So, I've worn my walnut strands 3 times now, and tonight when wiping them down after wearing, a piece seemed to chip off of the center. It's not a scuff, or nick. Seems like a dry bit of leather or something. Is this something that I should be worried about, or just deal with? They were seconds, but obviously this wasn't there when I received them. I haven't conditioned or polished at all since getting them.

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  18. namgungh

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    Nope, none. I called and visited two locations of Harry rosen and told me no different width.

    Robert Jones, the guy just told me he has no size 8 on any kinds. Bay didn't have anything either given that they were on clearance.

    I guess nobody on this forum owns both of lasalle and parkway :( well the lasalle sales is ending tonite
     
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  19. 7_rocket

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    I own the Lasalle, I posted a few pages back. Size 8D. They fit like a glove but I guess I have just normal width feet.

    Your best bet I think would maybe get someone at nordstorm to order it for you. Shipping is free.

    Where are you from in Toronto?
     
  20. Grenik

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    I have settled on my (first?) three pair of shoes after reading all the help on the forum, this thread in particular. I ended up with:

    AE Dark Brown Clifton
    AE Chili LaSalle
    Walnut Santoni Prichard

    I have read a few threads about shoe care, but was hoping to get some advice on my particular shoes. I was on the AE site making my order and reading the reviews and got concerned. There were several reviews about the Conditioner/Cleaner darkening the color of some shoes. The Clifton's are dark already, so seems safe to use. The LaSalle is the chili color that I really like, has anyone used the cleaner on the Chili colored leather? I am not sure I would try it on the walnut Santoni.

    If I understand correctly, shoe cream (glass jar) to condition and carnauba polish (tin) for shine. What about the squeeze bottle with applicator pad "premium polish"? I want my shoes to look professional, but not plastic. I have regularly put kiwi polish from a tin on my black shoes, but these were not "nice" shoes.

    I see recommendations to use the shoe cream followed by the carnauba polish. After doing that and the shoes need refreshing, do I use the cream again followed by polish? I would have thought the polish would have kept the shoe cream from soaking in.

    There is no recommended shoe cream for the Chili LaSalle on the AE site. Premium polish only? Carnauba polish only?

    Sorry for the newbie questions, but the couple threads I could find here were confusing on these points.
     
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