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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. Indyboots

    Indyboots New Member

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    New Shells covered in polish?

    Hi Guys,
    I just got a pair of Shell PAs seconds from the recent sale and they’re great except that they’re completely covered in an excess of black polish. The worst is on the sides of the caps where the polish is caked on thickly. Buffing them with a damp cloth removes some of the wax but hasn’t really improved their condition. Has anyone else seen this on a new pair of shoes? I don’t remember previous pairs being so bad right out of the box.

    Here’s a quick pic with an older pair of shell Leeds for comparison. The Leeds don’t have the great shine some of the shoes posted here show, but they’re clean and shine up great with a little venetian cream. In the picture you can see the stains on the buffing cloth from the PAs…


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    I'm out of VSC right now, but have some more on the way and think that the solvents in that will help a bit. Any other tips? (Other than a lot of buffing?)
     
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  2. random-adam

    random-adam Well-Known Member

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    This looks about right. AE often uses a ton of product on their shells to the point that many resort to saphir renovateur to pull out the worst of it. VSC works just as well, albeit more slowly... as does brushing until your arm falls off.
     
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  3. watchidiot

    watchidiot Well-Known Member

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    I think she's been quite loaded with emails since coming back from vacation. I sent her an email last Monday (dec 30) and only received a reply yesterday. So if she's on her Monday emails yesterday, she'll probably get to your email by Monday next week. Keep the fingers crossed :)
     
  4. bkotsko

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    If you are serious about removing polish, Saphir Renomat is the answer.
    Beware that it is very powerful, but this is exactly what it is made for.
     
  5. GOP Shoe Guy

    GOP Shoe Guy Well-Known Member

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    Very unique, and I am kind of intrigued. I think I could make those work… Cool make up.
     
  6. GOP Shoe Guy

    GOP Shoe Guy Well-Known Member

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    My MTO Shell Franciscans are heading back. They had only been worn twice when I noticed the finish was odd on the inside of the left shoe. I used some venetian shoe cream and a ton of brushing to try and even it out, no luck.

    I emailed with Allison last week and she sent me a call tag. Her supervisor and head of quality want to inspect the shell. She called the discoloration very unusual. The first 2 pics are pics from when they arrived new, and you can see on the 3rd picture how the finish is inconsistent near the sole. I am hopeful she will just discount them for me to seconds pricing and send them back. I really don't want to wait months for a new pair.

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  7. sevenfoldtieguy

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    Spoke with her on Jan. 2.
     
  8. sevenfoldtieguy

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    My MTO cappuccino Adams, recently delivered, have also been sent back. One shoe is slightly lighter in color than the other. I am optimistic it will be an easy fix.
     
  9. sevenfoldtieguy

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    The 3-73 is both seldom used and tricky. I go up 1/2 size and down 2 widths (9.5D to 10B). The fit is splendid.
     
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  10. halfnhalfnhalf

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    Thanks again to Cold Iron for his "Mac method while they're still warm" suggestion - if I may say so myself, the brown shell Strands are looking pretty sweet right about now:

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  11. GooseG

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    Excellent! I Mac'ed mine when I unboxed, and there was a considerable buildup of wax polish. Brushing brought some additional shone out. Sadly, I haven't worn them yet because I need to get the stitch issue fixed and there's snow and slush on the ground.
     
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  12. Michael Haines

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    I for one agree with you
     
  13. green garden

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    How old are these? Asking because the brown seemed to have lightened up. They actually look olive to me. I like it.
     
  14. green garden

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    Can anyone describe the difference of CXL and Dublin leather? Thinking of an MTO boot and want to see which one to specify. Thanks.
     
  15. NWTeal

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    Dublin is Horween's waxed Essex leather which is calf that's treated with the same tanning techniques and cordovan I believe.

    http://horween.com/leathers/

    I researched this just the other day since I'm thinking about a boot in one of those two as well. It seems they'd have similar weather resistant properties, but I'm not 100% sure. I'd also be interested in answers.
     
  16. jpjdavid83

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    Can I get your advise on how well my 9D Strands fit? Basically if I force my foot forward I can fit my middle and index finger at the back of my heel. There is also about an inch of space from my toes to the tip of the shoe. I was thinking this is because the 5 last is the most elongated last of AE. Aside from this I have no problems with the shoe. My foot doesn't slip around inside the shoe whenever I walk. I can lace the shoe completely so I don't think there is a problem with the width.

    Should I move down to a 8.5D for my next 5 last model?

    Sadly going to an AE outlet is not an option as it is not available in my country.

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  17. jd13jd13

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    I'd ask Horween themselves. I've e-mailed them before, they where pretty helpful. http://horween.com/contact/
     
  18. random-adam

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    Shoe length does not matter. It's a weird thing to hear, but so long as your toes aren't uncomfortable against the front of the shoe it is true. More information here from the folks who make the brannock device.

    Short version: heel-to-ball measurement is most reliable for getting the correct shoe size, especially on longer lasts like AE's 5.

    Don't go by how much space is in front of your toes. Go by where the ball of your foot sits in relation to the widest part of the shoe.
     
  19. Claus

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    Overall, the shoe does not fit, in my opinon.

    The quarters of a new shoe should not close. The vamp keeps your heel in place, and prevents your feet from being pushed into the shoe tip when you walk. This is why you see the gap in the back of your heel.

    Generally speaking, half an inch is the recommended minimum space in front of your toes. Elongated lasts have more, depending on the style of the shoe tip and the current fashion. For instance, Western boots need quite a bit more space, because no-one has a foot shape that pointy.

    The problem is to measure it correctly. When you kneel down to get your fingers to the shoes, you take the load off your foot which makes it a bit shorter. In other words, the usual thumb test creates the impression of having more space than you really have when you walk. Additionally, you may not know whether a particular shoe is meant to have more space by design.

    The minimum space is meant to keep your toes from being pressed together while walking, because the rolling movement makes the shoe a bit shorter.

    This is why it is sometimes not a good idea to go down in size. It will reduce the volume of the shoe, but it will also make it shorter, moving your toes closer to the tip.

    Try the Allen Edmonds sizing guide. Ignore the width, and only measure the lenght. You can substract half a size to get your correct size.

    If that turns out to be US 8.5, you should switch. If it's more, you may try the C of B width of the last.
     
  20. jpjdavid83

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    I did actually use their sizing guide which led me ordering a size 9. Size 8.5 is starting to become more logical now.
    Thanks i'll try to get a measurement of my heel to ball and compare it against my heel to toe.

    Appreciate all your inputs.
     
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