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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. YoungSweet

    YoungSweet Well-Known Member

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    JAB has shoe trees for $8.5 a pair. Buy 15 pairs and you can get them for $6.80 a pair ($25 off $125 coupon).
     
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  2. Nakedsnake

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    Interesting stuff here. I just emailed her back today with specs, so im going to wait and see what she says. Hopefully I can get what I want, but if there is some stuff that I can't have, i'll understand. Im not sure about any of my requests yet and whether or not they can be accommodated. Everything i've requested (except the 270 welt), i've seen asked for/done in at least one post before, as before I made this list up, I went back and looked at A LOT of MTO make ups on here. Thanks for chiming in on the Poron insole, what you said has echoed what i've heard.

    What are the prospective specs on your make up? We're going to have a boat load of great looking eagle county boots on this thread in about 2-3 months time.

    Can anyone comment on how the independence lining affects fit? My understanding is that there is no difference in fit, only in feeling, with the independence lining being a little softer, and a little bit more well made.
     
  3. DNSamurai

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    Ok, if you were trying to bring sexy back...which one of these EC MTO makeups would you go with?

    Dark chocolate upper
    tone on tone stitching
    flat black welt
    poron insole
    dainite sole
    black speed hooks



    Bourbon upper
    tone on tone
    extra burnishing to toe and heel
    poron insole
    natural split reverse welt
    wheeled edge
    mini lug outsole.
     
  4. Nakedsnake

    Nakedsnake Well-Known Member

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    Also, for those of you looking for an image of the Mini-lug sole that has been talked about here, it can found through this link

    Catalog with all of the available sole models, dated 2013.

    Left page, middle row, on the right.
     
  5. jch1

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    I stopped by the Lasalle street AE store this evening and briefly spoke with one of the designers. Unfortunately, the main designer was in a car accident on his way down and thus had not yet arrived. Apparently he had items from the spring collection, which I missed out on seeing. One of the employees at the store did say that she might take some pictures for me. Alternatively, she said to keep an eye on the Instagram account, as they may show up there in the near future.

    Also, I took a look at the different sole options, and I have to say the Dainite sole is definitely the "sleekest" sole when compared to the mini lug sole. I'm not sure which I'm going to go with for my EC MTO.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Probably What I would do. A touch of contrast between the dark upper and less dark welt and sole would look nice, in my opinion. Mini lug because I think some treads on a boot look good.
     
  7. kentyman

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    There's something about the soles that don't show any leather at all that make it feel cheaper. I feel like it makes it look like they're not Goodyear welted but rather cemented on, though I understand that's not actually the case. Because of that, I'm only considering the following, sorted by presumed "clunkiness":

    1. Double Butyl: Has that pure leather look, but may wear quicker than a rubber sole and have less traction in rain
    2. V-Tread Tap: Seems like the lowest profile, though for some reason doesn't seem to be getting a lot of attention for this MTO. Seems like it might be the best of both worlds.
    3. Tempest Tap: Looks kinda like a combination tap sole version of the Dainite. Anyone considering this? Anyone know anything about it?
    4. Mini-lug Tap: Seems like a good choice for actual foul weather boots, though I have a worry that it changes the profile and makes them look too casual/rugged.

    For the record, I'm going for a Brown Chromexcel boot that I can wear on rainy days that also won't look bad going out on the town with jeans or chinos.
     
  8. polojock615

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    My latest "defective" MTOs came in today. Burgundy shell Lexingtons with a natural welt and edge finishing. I called in a week ago asking about them. Allison was very apologetic because I had asked for independence lining, but only an independence insole got put in. Also, they put "Sanford" (A Lexington is a Sanford on the 1-last instead of the 7-last) instead of "Lexington." Not that worried about it - they look great!


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  9. SidewinderX

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    I'm considering adding a pair of Neumoks to my stable to wear casually with jeans/chinos/etc... however, I can't decide what color to get! I tend to wear more denim than light chinos and I can't decide between red, blue, and olive. Anyone have strong feelings on the matter? Or great examples of of any of those "in the wild" to help me decide?
     
  10. VinnyMac

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    Snuff suede neumoks would be my vote.
     
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    I find olive to be the most versatile
     
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    I have both the blue and the olive - great shoes. I think the olive is more versatile than the blue. Wearing the blue with denim feels kinda "matchy matchy" to me. OTOH, the olive with denim looks great, and with khaki looks even better.
     
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    My sentiments exactly, with the a sole of entire rubber. Part of the appeal of the leather soled shoe, is indeed, having some leather on the sole, in my opinion. I have the V-tread on a pair of Strands I have (Not BB) and I really like it, I think its a great sole. For someone who is looking for a very low profile and dressy option, it is what I would recommend.
     
  14. kentyman

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    I'm having a similar dilemma on Neumoks.

    If anyone recalls, I ordered 4 sizes of Banff slippers when they were $59. The only size that worked for me was 9EEE (I'm normally 8.5D in 5-65 and 9D in others). Sadly, they were terrible quality. I sold the 8.5EEE to OptoDoc (how'd those work out?), asked for a refund on the 9D and 9.5D, and requested an exchange on the 9EEE. Then I got this email:

    Quote: This is really above-and-beyond of them, considering I only paid $59 for a $125 slipper!

    However, now I need to decide how to spend this windfall. I considered putting it toward the $199 Dark Blue Jingle Bell Mok (199-175+59=$83 total), but I'm not sure if I like it more than the Navy Neumok (275-175+59=$159 total). And if I'm going to put it toward a $275 shoe, I think I prefer the Snuff Suede Neumok. Then again, I hadn't been planning on buying this shoe, and if I was I likely would've considered a factory second for $159 (same as I'd pay now) or a Brooks Brothers factory second when they go on sale for $150 or even $125 (cheaper than I'd pay now).

    Basically, even though I prefer Snuff Suede, an $83 Dark Blue Jingle Bell Mok and eventually buying a Snuff Suede second for $159 (or cheaper) sounds like a better use of the money than just spending it on what amounts to a free upgrade from factory second to factory Snuff Suede firsts.

    Opinions? Maybe someone with the Dark Blue Jingle Bell Mok could convince me with pictures? ;)
     
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    Those are absolutely sweet. Envious!
     
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    Thanks for this. It actually matches what Allison emailed me today:

    Quote: The only reason I waver is I wonder if I'm too hooked on the leather look and should be considering something a little more gnarly. But I probably should go with my first instinct.
     
  17. Nakedsnake

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    I think it just comes down to the look you want to achieve. I think the mini lug is going to look great on my suede make up, as I want them to be an all weather boot, and look the part. Rugged and suede go together in my eyes. Opinions vary.

    The V tread sole is basically invisible when standing, so if you want a dress boot, the eagle county would look really sharp with it.

    Hope that helps some.
     
  18. 850csi

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    I probably would have gone with the v-tread had I not already had it on my Strands and 5As, and if this wasn't going to be my only boot for the time being. I think it'll definitely be my sole of choice if/when I get around to getting Daltons.

    I personally don't like the idea of a mini lug sole on the EC because I'm going for a dressy look and the shoe's shape itself is very sleek. I think the mini lug looks better on boots built on chunkier lasts like the Bayfield. But that's just me.
     
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    I'm looking for somewhat of a Jack-of-all-trades, which I realize may be hard to get right. I currently have Burgundy Shell Daltons that fit the dress boot bill very nicely, but I'm reluctant to wear them hard if weather gets bad. I'm looking for something that can handle some rain, works when totally casual (jeans and t-shirt), but also would do fine with a dressed-up a tad with jeans/chinos and a sport coat.

    Here's what I'm thinking so far:

    Leather: Brown Chromexcel
    Stitching: Contrast, matching the Wilbert welt stitching mentioned below.
    Lining/Insole: Independence or Standard, depending upon fit. Allison said Independence takes up more room.
    Welt type: Split Reverse, as it leans more rugged.
    Welt color: Allison suggested the contrast-stitched "Brown with Reverse Smokey Stitch" of the Wilbert. It looks different here. I'm still not sure if I want the welt leather to match the uppers, the edge dressing, or neither. Thoughts?
    Edge dressing: Still trying to decide between Natural Toasted, Light Brown Transparent, Brown Transparent. Thoughts?
    Eyelets: Was thinking Brass Agatine, but Allison suggested Copper Agatine might look better as brass might stand out too much. Thoughts?
    Speed hooks: I'm thinking 6-holes-3-hooks or 5-holes-4-hooks instead of 6-2-1 as it comes.
    Pull tab: Unmodified, as Allison said it can't really be changed to resemble the Dalton or be removed completely. This surprised me, but I'm fine with it.
    Sole: As mentioned before, I'm still trying to decide between Double Butyl, V-Tread Tap, Tempest Tap, and Mini-lug Tap: http://issuu.com/allenedmonds/docs/ae_spring_digest_web_lr/46
     
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    First off, don't worry about wearing your daltons in inclement weather. I've got Burgundy shell daltons, and in the last month, i've worn them in calf deep snow at least twice a week. Just gave them a good brushing, cleaning, and a touch of AE cordovan creme, and they look like mirrors. I've had a topy applied to those though, one that is similar to the v-tap, but a with a more aggressive tread. . Shell is VERY tough, in my experience, no need to baby it.

    Thanks for commenting on the independence lining being a little thicker. Im going to change mine back to regular lining then. Would love to get purple lining, but doubt thats an option.

    As for your Eagle County, those specs, to me, seem really really good. I would go with the light brown transparent edge or brown, the natural will be too flashy. Same goes with the eyelets, I would go with the ones that stand out less. Given the casual make up of this boot,(casual leather, split reverse welt, contrast stitching) adding the flashy eyelets, in my opinion, threatens to make it too casual to dress up. The welt color from those Wilberts would be nice I think.

    As for the last bit. The 6-2-1 set up is incredibly dumb. I have a pair already, and they are a pain to lace. Im going to go top 4 as speed hooks, since Allison told me I can't have all eyelets. (If you get all eyelets, the ones that used to be speed hooks will have bigger holes) Remember that the Eagle County is taller than your daltons (about an inch), and has 9 eyelets instead of 7. Since you want to dress this up at times, I would go with the V-tread or tempest tap, leaning towards to v-tread. Its a little more dressy, and would help keep the boot from being too casual.
     
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