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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. chinngiskhaan

    chinngiskhaan Well-Known Member

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    what is this from? This is why there is a cordovan shortage... because westerners can't stand the idea of eating horse meat. Somehow it's ok to eat cows, sheep, and pigs but not horses.

    I wonder if I slaughter and skin my own horse if I could send the hide to horween...[​IMG]
     
  2. chinngiskhaan

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    the horses are smaller, but horses still. I think the shells would still be plenty big... But I'm no expert on horses, or Tanning so I could be completely wrong. It's possible that They've already checked into the Mongolia thing and it didn't work out.

    The horses are smaller, but not small enough that they wouldn't produce shells big enough for shoe making. As far as thickness goes, if anything I would imagine their hides are thicker than western horse hides... again, I could be TOTALLY off base here.
     
  3. cincikid

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    True. I guess Central Asia would be my bet were I in the need of obtaining shells in large quantities. I guess there might be other factors though, maybe a different breed of horses with smaller shells? [​IMG]
     
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    In the western culture, horses are considered what one could call a very utilitarian animal. They have been used for a wide variety of purposes, such as hunting, ploughing, moving people and cargo, you name it, whereas cows, sheep and pigs were bred solely to be consumed. I think we have inherited a completely different attitude to the horses than to the other domesticated animals.
     
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    At first I thought it was just Basel's cobblestone roads. Perhaps a combination of both.

    I've read the same thing about putting a topy on butyl. Then again, it might be different when the sole has been cheese grated...

    I'm not "worried" per se, but like to take care of my stuff so that it lasts as long as possible. #2) Of course I can resole them, but would rather not do that prematurely. #3) Topy might work, but as others mentioned it can be tricky on butyl soles. #1) Not really a helpful response, as I'm not concerned about the look but rather how long they'll last and how well they'll keep water out of the rest of my shoes.
     
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    It's from Game of Thrones.
     
  7. chinngiskhaan

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    To be fair, Mongolians use horses for those things too. They use horses today like westerners used them before machines were invented to do the horses job. The difference is that when they are too old to use for those things, they kill them, and eat them.
     
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    I have rubber soles on all my shoes. It makes them less slippery and thinks it is better for the life of the shoes.
     
  9. cincikid

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    I just chatted with Nick V. from B.Nelson Shoe Repair in NYC on a similar matter. I sent him a pair of Wolverins last week so that he'd put on Vibram Raptor outsoles. Just earlier today he confirmed that he can't do it as the cement wouldn't adhere to the oily surface of the leather regardless of whether it has been grated or not..
     
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    It might be a western attitude then. Koreans also eat dogs too, which we don't.
    I must admit though, that people do eat horse meat in Europe (but not in the UK) and I think I tried it in a form of sausage more than once. There's actually an interesting Wiki article on this matter.
     
  11. cincikid

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    What do you, gentlemen, think of a pair of MTO CXL McNeils (either black or brown) with the exposed brass eyelets, natural welt and the Dainite sole, simialr to this pair of Trickers?
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    Does AE have a supply of CXL?
     
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    Would be best in a navy CXL (which AE doesn't have), but black or brown would be pretty cool as well.
     
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    Yes, AE has brown and black CXL from Horween.


    Agreed. I wish they had it in blue as well. Out of brown and black, which do you think would look better?
     
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    I've kind of always felt brown brogues looks better than black
     
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    I think black would be cool and give you kind of a sneaker look with the lighter edge. I think the black would actually be more interesting in this case.
     
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    I'm not sure if you know this or not, but only a certain part of the horse (near the rump) is used for shell, so if the horses are smaller there is a good chance that there is not enough membrane to make a pair of shell shoes.
     
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    Just got my pair of Evanstons back from a recraft!

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    Can not understand for the life of me why AE discontinued the shoe. Btw, how do you find the fit compare to the AE shoes on different lasts?
     
  20. chinngiskhaan

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    yes, I am aware of this. They are smaller, but still large animals. Have you ever seen a full horse hide? They are enormous! While the shell is a small portion of the horse hide, it is still rather large. The difference in size would be insignificant, probably like the difference in the leather it takes to make a men's basketball compared to a women's basketball. Mongolian horses are smaller than American horses, but still large animals.

    Given the harsh environment that they are accustomed to it's possible that the difference in thickness or texture of the hides is the real issue.
     
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