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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by watchidiot, Feb 12, 2016.

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  1. columnsofsteam

    columnsofsteam Active Member

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    I didn't think to wait for a possible sale, but my Dark Chili Cornwallis just arrived today. I''d ordered a Fifth Avenue during the Anniversary Sale, decided I didn't love the style (since I rarely wear the brown pair I have), and figured I'd take a risk on these. I'm glad I did; the Cornwallis is quickly becoming one of my favorite AE models.

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    These Cornwallis are the same size as my 65-lasted shoes. They're slightly roomier through the toe box and instep (leading to a narrower v-gap), but I tried on a half-size smaller, and it was much too tight. I'd stick with your 65-last size.
     
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  2. ace13x

    ace13x Well-Known Member

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    Once I again I have succumb to the siren's call of the chukka. Ordered a pair of Oxblood Dundee's from Brooks Brothers. Unfortunately, I'm a bit disappointed, but I'm seeking the opinions of the forum to confirm (or reject). Sorry about the crappy lighting.


    First, both shoes were hazy. There was a chalky waxy substance on them sort of like the bloom on a pair of shell shoes. Not a big deal since I've determined I can brush/buff it off. Its almost like they sprayed on some neutral wax and forgot to polish them. Hard to capture with my cell phone, but this is it below:

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    On to the right shoe. A couple of missed stitches, also visible on the bottom.

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    Overall, the finishing/burnishing seemed rushed, this part almost looks like a scuff.


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    Bad job on the welt. Its actually worse than in I could capture in the picture. The welt on the left shoe was near perfect.


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    Onto the left shoe. NOT a duplicate photo (on the right they are on the inboard part of the sole, on the left the outboard), more missed stitches (actually there is a third one down at the end of the toppy).

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    Odd crease/bulge.

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    The next really isn't a fault, but the soles are SUPER thick. The rubber is attached totally on top (not shaved in). And I'm not sure, but it seems like there is another layer of sole just under the welt. I love me a double sole, but these may be a bit too much. Here is a comparison to the double Redenbach soles on my shell Dundee's, followed by a comparison to the double butyl on my suede Dundee's.

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    So, opinions? I'm leaning towards return. Keep in mind these are SUPPOSEDLY firsts.
     
  3. columnsofsteam

    columnsofsteam Active Member

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    ^^^ Since they're firsts, I'd probably swap those (or check Shoebank for seconds); if they were secomds, I'd be 100% satisfied.

    Something else that showed up today:
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    Front shows the Cavanaugh, rear shows the Cornwallis ($199).
     
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  4. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Well-Known Member

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    Those chukkas are not first quality, even for AE.

    Exchange. Brooks is pretty good about that.
     
  5. St Hubbins

    St Hubbins Well-Known Member

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    I think the stitching problems on the welt/sole would bother me the most especially considering they are supposed to be first quality. Unless you bought them for maybe 50% off or better, I vote return.
     
  6. MattRiv

    MattRiv Well-Known Member

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    Afternoon gents.

    Pardon the non AE content, but I wanted to celebrate a little bit, because I think you guys will enjoy the moment with me more than my wife did. Haha

    My first shell shoes:

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    Vintage Florsheim Kenmoor LWBs in #8 shell cordovan that I paid $70 for on the bay. Original soles with light wear, right about in need of a new heel. Anyway, I buffed them up and can't believe how nice they look for what I paid. Also, the build quality is on par with AE IMHO.

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  7. Lobster33

    Lobster33 Well-Known Member

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    @ace13x

    The main thing is if you're unhappy with them, I say return them. I don't think they look bad, but none of my firsts looked like that.
     
  8. BackInTheJox

    BackInTheJox Well-Known Member

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    Currently deliberating purchasing 3 entirely different shoes:

    1. Dark chili or brown Cornwallis
    2. Brown grain Player 2.0
    3. Brown CXL Oak Street Bootmakers Beefroll Penny Loafer

    I don't NEED any of them. But then again, that's not what this thread is about.
     
  9. naspratt

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    1. Yes; brown for business, chili for bidness
    2. Yes, and I'm mad they never show up on the Shoebank in my size.
    3. Not Rancourt?
     
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  10. BackInTheJox

    BackInTheJox Well-Known Member

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    1. As I posted earlier today, I just don't tend to wear balmorals much with my level of daily dress (chinos/button-down). But I love the Cornwallis and would find ways to work them in
    2. Yeah, I only recently saw a pair pop up in my size. Out of the 3 pairs I listed, these would probably get the most year-round wear
    3. For whatever reason I prefer the goodyear welt on the OSB to the blake stitch of the Rancourt. I agree that otherwise the shoes are pretty similar (and Rancourt is a tad less expensive).
     
  11. BennJeff

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    I assume there isn't an AE store in Raleigh because they assume they have enough retailers in the triangle area so they don't need to open up another store? I am surprised that there is an AE outlet store in Mebane. That area doesn't really have much reason for people to dress well job wise that I can tell. Certainly not like the Triangle or Charlotte.


    Also if anyone out there was curious about which shoes I ended up choosing for my suit that I asked about, I went with a pair of Burgundy Cliftons from the outlet. They were on sale and the only thing that I could find wrong with them that would cause them to be seconds was the stitching on the soles to be out of the groove in some places but I don't think it will be anything to cause an issue. All the Park Avenues and such that I tried on had flaws that were just too noticeable for my liking.
     
  12. styleaudit91

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    Damn. I really like those. And that dark chili on them is very nice. The DC I have are more dark red. I may have a new target on my hands...
     
  13. RichieP

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    Are those model # 54545S (brown/blue) on the Shoebank? I've spotted these in my size but they look much more grain-ey in your pics than on the website.
     
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  14. BackInTheJox

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    Yes, that's them. The leather is a very soft, supple grain/pebbles leather. The lighting in my pics does seem to overemphasize the texture, but it's not too far off real life.
     
  15. Gabru

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    Thanks I talked to jay after seeing this post and asked about a fifth street boot in brown cordovan on double leather sole.
    He is gonna look into the possibility of doing this and let me know.
     
  16. ace13x

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    Thanks everyone, I'm going to return for another pair. Worse that can happen is they send me another bad pair, in which case I'll just pass. To those who favored keeping, I understand your points, but I think all the problems taken as a whole just make for an unsatisfactory shoe (even had they been seconds).


    As an additional note to anyone considering purchasing the Brooks Brothers version of the Dundee (there is also a brown grain version), these are considerably tighter fitting. My AE Dundee's allow me to wear all but the thickest socks I own. Due to the Brooks Bros. insole, it seems I can only wear these with thin socks.
     
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  17. ace13x

    ace13x Well-Known Member

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    I also got the mailer today. Its a pretty nice seconds sale, especially the Bartlett and Hopkinson (no Jefferson? first the $20 now this!). The First Ave is very tempting at $249. The Carlyle at $199 is good too, but I'm all but certain that last won't do anything for me. I wonder if the sale will be strictly limited to the shoes in the mailer, or will there be a broader sale selection. A trip to Paramus may be in my future.
     
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  19. middlepP

    middlepP Well-Known Member

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    I wear 9D in my 5-last (and about 75% of my AEs). My Dalton in 9D is on the short side, but 9.5B was way too narrow, 9.5D had too much volume. 9D is great on the 201 First Aves/Freiburg, but had volume issues with the Rogue. I don't have anything on the 800. Recently tried the Cornwallis in 9D and it was definitely too short. 9.5 was better for length but had too much volume. I'd say if the 5-last runs shorter on you, or you drop down 1/2 and go D to E, you might consider going with your Brannock over 5-last size.
     
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  20. flylikeneagle

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    Yeah, the color in the picturse is very close to the actual color of the tan grain.
     
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