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allen edmond seconds are not that cheap...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Stillmaticbeat, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Stillmaticbeat

    Stillmaticbeat Well-Known Member

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    i just got the list of seconds and they're only 40-60 dollars cheaper than what nordstroms would sell them for... i thought they'd be a lot cheaper. why do some of you guys buy seconds rather than just waiting for ae website sale where they get reduced 20-25% anyways for brand new shoes... i'm just trying to understand.
     
  2. cptjeff

    cptjeff Well-Known Member

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    Nordstroms has a much smaller selection, does it not? And they're still brand new shoes, many with no noticeable imperfections even though they're listed as seconds, and 40-60 dollars cheaper. That's why.
     
  3. Stillmaticbeat

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    yeah i understand. i wasn't trying to be sarcastic or anything. i just thought they'd be sub 200 because a lot of people say how they get ae's for cheap, it had me hoping...
     
  4. Matt S

    Matt S Well-Known Member

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    You can get discontinued seconds for a really good price. Those are the ones to look for.
     
  5. PBristolJr

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    I thought of it this way, I could spend my $234 on a pair of strand seconds that have been proven to last decades. Or buy cheap ~$120 shoes and replace them in a year or two.. Good ol' Econ 150 says... if the expensive shoe fits, wear it! [​IMG]
     
  6. btinl

    btinl Well-Known Member

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    The seconds go on deep discount every so often. They use a progressive discount system like buy 2 get 30% off, buy 3 get 50% off.
     
  7. tacobender

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    I scored a pair of Orange Revere loafers and a pair of black park aves at a nordstrom rack a few years ago. The park aves were maybe 120, and the reveres were less than 100. All in all the pricing at discount was great as they are pretty durable, but I don't find them nearly as high quality or comfortable as their more expensive italian counterparts.

    I think the pricing is fair, and you get a good value for the discounted price.
     
  8. Stillmaticbeat

    Stillmaticbeat Well-Known Member

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    when do they go on the "deep discount" and how do you find out when those sales happen?
     
  9. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Well-Known Member

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    i just got the list of seconds and they're only 40-60 dollars cheaper than what nordstroms would sell them for... i thought they'd be a lot cheaper. why do some of you guys buy seconds rather than just waiting for ae website sale where they get reduced 20-25% anyways for brand new shoes... i'm just trying to understand.

    What model were you looking at? I am looking to purchase some Walnut strands.
     
  10. reidrothchild

    reidrothchild Well-Known Member

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    To get the sub-$200 seconds, you can't be too picky and have to take whatever discontinued models in whatever select colors are being offered. Recently, the Bostons, Cliftons, Bel Airs, Delrays, and a couple others were selling for $130-$160 in select colors. PAs, 5th Ave, MacNeil, Strand, and other classics are less likely to go on steep discount. Many on SF will, however, see the Bostons (black monkstrap) for $159 and then state categorically that anyone paying a penny over that for any model of AE got ripped off. Basically, if you want the PA or Strand, you're not going to do much better than 20% off outside of one of the semi-annual sales when you could get them at 30% off. But the really steep discounts are typically reserved for discontinued models.
     
  11. bleachboy

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    User "Distinctive" has a crapton of used AEs for sale cheap. I got some walnut strands and some burgundy PAs for cheap. You might check that out.
     
  12. dep126

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    when do they go on the "deep discount" and how do you find out when those sales happen?

    If you go on the AE website go to store locator and click on the Port Washington, WI factory store. They usually have a note listing the current specials. A couple weeks ago I got a pair of Bayfields for $149 and walnut strands for $179. As I've said on a previous post I couldn't find a single thing wrong with either pair. The box my Bayfields came in had a big rip in it. I recall reading, possibly here on SF, an imperfection as small as that could make it a 'second.' I was also surprised my shoes had no visable marking identifying them as seconds. If I keep getting prices like that I don't see myself ever buying 'firsts.'
     
  13. Thanks SF (a new me)

    Thanks SF (a new me) Well-Known Member

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    To get the sub-$200 seconds, you can't be too picky and have to take whatever discontinued models in whatever select colors are being offered. Recently, the Bostons, Cliftons, Bel Airs, Delrays, and a couple others were selling for $130-$160 in select colors. PAs, 5th Ave, MacNeil, Strand, and other classics are less likely to go on steep discount. Many on SF will, however, see the Bostons (black monkstrap) for $159 and then state categorically that anyone paying a penny over that for any model of AE got ripped off. Basically, if you want the PA or Strand, you're not going to do much better than 20% off outside of one of the semi-annual sales when you could get them at 30% off. But the really steep discounts are typically reserved for discontinued models.

    +1 I am very comfortable for the $225 and $210 I paid for the PA/MacNeil and Strand...these are considered classics as reidrothchild pointed out...
     
  14. dieselman89

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    If you go on the AE website go to store locator and click on the Port Washington, WI factory store. They usually have a note listing the current specials. A couple weeks ago I got a pair of Bayfields for $149 and walnut strands for $179. As I've said on a previous post I couldn't find a single thing wrong with either pair. The box my Bayfields came in had a big rip in it. I recall reading, possibly here on SF, an imperfection as small as that could make it a 'second.' I was also surprised my shoes had no visable marking identifying them as seconds. If I keep getting prices like that I don't see myself ever buying 'firsts.'
    What walnut strands for $179! They just quoted me $234!
     
  15. dep126

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    What walnut strands for $179! They just quoted me $234!

    Bummer, like I said that was a couple weeks ago.
     
  16. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    The deep discount I saw before was:

    20% off first pair
    40% off second pair
    60% off third pair+

    So it's not that great if you are buying only 1 or 2, but if you want to load up on 4-5 shoes you can end up getting some dirt cheap. I believe my 3rd pair of cliftons were like $60.
     
  17. Stillmaticbeat

    Stillmaticbeat Well-Known Member

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    do you know when it'll go deep discount again?
     
  18. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    do you know when it'll go deep discount again?

    Not sure, but last year I placed my order in late February. Not sure if it's an annual thing or what.
     
  19. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure, but last year I placed my order in late February. Not sure if it's an annual thing or what.

    Seems to be 20% per brookfield.
     
  20. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone ever had a bad experience purchasing seconds?
     

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