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ALFRED SARGENT Appreciation: Handgrade, Exclusive, etc.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SuitedDx, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. dddrees

    dddrees Well-Known Member

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    Great choices.

    I've often thought about getting a pair myself, but just have yet to do so.
     
  2. ElementHU

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    Love those Ramseys in dark oak. Beautiful!




    +1 and will likely get a pair eventually. I'm too afflicted with shiny penny syndrome, though, and something always seems to bump the Ramseys down the priority list. I think the Ramseys represent one of the best quality/value combos in a double monk.
     
  3. wurger

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    No wonder there haven't been any updates on their Facebook page.
     
  4. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Well-Known Member

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    That's sad news! Can't image AS without him, a true loss. I was looking forward to a small trunk show with him here in Sweden after the summer, which was roughly planned, guess that won't happen.


    Nice pairs, especially the snuff suede ones!
     
  5. Northampton21

    Northampton21 Well-Known Member

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    Sad news indeed bout Chay leaving AS!

    Lovely looking Ramseys. :) like the snuff. Does anyone own the AS Holburn and please could some pics be posted? I am looking at getting a pair of these.
     
  6. badsha

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    Anyone know why Chay left? Or is he in the process? Just when I was going to order some Jodhpurs!!!
     
  7. Afinepairofshoes

    Afinepairofshoes Well-Known Member

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    Just picking up on this fine cracking on the toe of the AS Moore in Cherry. We have had this pair returned and have rectified this easily with a small application of Saphir Renovateur rubbed in with soft cloth and they are now perfect.

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  8. clee1982

    clee1982 Well-Known Member

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    Now that's a super tempting pair, must resist!!!
     
  9. scurvyfreedman

    scurvyfreedman Well-Known Member

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    x-post with AFPOS AS MTO thread:

    They're here!

    Thanks to Sarah for changing the shipping address to get them here today. Very pleased with the shoes and the service from AFPOS. The delay is obviously a production issue at AS. But, the quality is very nice.

    Some quick shots.

    upon first try-on of the 48 last it feels a little tight, but I'm sure they'll stretch a little; length is spot on, heel is pretty solid for a first wear-

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    a little buckling on the inside of the right shoe only behind the ball of the foot- obviously fit is not perfect. Same thing happens on the same shoe for me on the C&J 348, but not the 363 boot last.

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    a better view of the burnishing- upon close inspection you can see a little stretching of the leather on the toe cap. No cracking as others have found on different shoes (not necessarily AS)

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    Overall, I really like the shape of the 48 in person. Not 100% positive on the fit yet.

    Some quick observations- the sole finishing is finer than on C&J's handgrade collection- much nicer waist. The leather is on par, at least on initial inspection. We'll see how it does after a few wears. The burnishing is very nicely done. Significantly nicer than C&J benchgrade burnishing.


    A few more tidbits-

    The box says espresso not oak. I was concerned that the oak would be too light- I got a belt from AFPOS in oak some time ago and it's somewhat light than the shoes. Could be the burnishing. Could be espresso is a handgrade color whereas oak is the exclusive color, much like C&J has two different chestnuts. I prefer the darker brown to the color of the oak belt. Definitely no complaints there.

    The sockliner says AS handgrade, not exclusive for AFPOS. But, it's a half liner. The sole is exclusive. It's just odd that they would put the handgrade liner in, but cut it for a half liner (I assume the handgrade have a full sock liner, but I'm not sure). Could be that it's cut for the heel of the 48 last, so it's easier to work with, but it was a surprise.

    The stitching is very uniform and well done. None of the finishing issues that others have had with AS MTO.

    I wouldn't hesitate to do this again when AS restarts its MTO program. The only thing is, I would anticipate an 8 month delivery rather than 4 even if they promised 4.
     
  10. clee1982

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    Very nice
     
  11. j ingevaldsson

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    Yeah, Sarah sent me the pics as well. Looks really good now, a shame I already purchased another pair and couldn't afford both. For the future I know that if a new pair comes with similar small creases from some maker it will be easy to get them fixed. Don't know if its cause I had build up with new polish before treating them with renovateur, that made it impossible to get rid of them in my previous experience with similar creasing.


    Except for the small creases they were lovely. Now when they are gone I would take a plunge if I'd were you..
     
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  12. clee1982

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    I am trying to buy a blucher (need to increase my casual collection), I have way too many blamoral..., it is however super tempting...
     
  13. emptym

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    Fwiw, I have three handgrades and all three have half liners. Bengalstripe once posted that that's typically done on fine shoes. I can't remember why... The custom boots I have from DWFII--easily my nicest pair--also have this.
     
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  14. NAMOR

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    regret not getting the Moore :fu:
     
  15. clee1982

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    I am positive you don't need another shoe, just like me :embar:
     
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  16. gyasih

    gyasih Well-Known Member

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    They may come up again. I still need to get rid of the Cherry Wilson.

    I miss my Oxblood version of the Moore, those were great!!!!!!
     
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    sell a lesser pair!
     
  18. NAMOR

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    eyes are open. the wilson is nice but its not moore
     
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  19. gyasih

    gyasih Well-Known Member

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    So TRUE! That's why I chose the Moore :)
     
  20. wurger

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    Thank you to Julian and Sarah for sharing this with the rest of SF, so this confirms what to do first when these fine cracks appear on shoes.
     

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