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AE MacNeil LWB vs. JCrew Alden LWB

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by balaskonis, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. balaskonis

    balaskonis Well-Known Member

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    Wanted to get the dark brown LWB...originally looked at Alden Cigar Shell and RL Darlton, but guys, too expensive at >$600.

    What is the take on these two shoes (MacNeil and Alden Jcrew) ? Does anyone have any pics of the Dark Brown Alden JCrew Longwing? Of course on J Crew's site it's just one angle.

    Any comments on last? They really do look very similar.

    Thanks,
    Paul
     
  2. alliswell

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    I was thinking McClain, not MacNeil.

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    McClains's not really a long wing - it has more broguing than the Alden. That said, it's sneakily the best shoe that AE has, and if you find it for a good price, you should grab it. I got in suede for $200 or so IIRC and I've gotten great use from it.

    Also the McClain last is nicer - round but elongated, as opposed to the blobby Barrie.
     
  3. Ahab

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    Wanted to get the dark brown LWB...originally looked at Alden Cigar Shell and RL Darlton, but guys, too expensive at >$600.

    What is the take on these two shoes (MacNeil and Alden Jcrew) ? Does anyone have any pics of the Dark Brown Alden JCrew Longwing? Of course on J Crew's site it's just one angle.

    Any comments on last? They really do look very similar.

    Thanks,
    Paul

    AE's go on sale.


    So does the Darlton a little less often......[​IMG]
     
  4. porcelain monkey

    porcelain monkey Well-Known Member

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    MacNeil's not really a long wing - it has more broguing than the Alden. That said, it's sneakily the best shoe that AE has, and if you find it for a good price, you should grab it. I got in suede for $200 or so IIRC and I've gotten great use from it.

    Also the MacNeil last is nicer - round but elongated, as opposed to the blobby Barrie.


    Why is the MacNeil not a long wing?

    I like the new walnut grain calf.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. KObalto

    KObalto Well-Known Member

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    Why is the MacNeil not a long wing?


    +1
     
  6. Minerva

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    AE MacNeil's at landsend 30% off and free shipping

    Code and PIN

    Code MARCH4 and PIN 00004211

    Offer good until 11:59pm March 4
     
  7. Salad

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    ^ Too bad the walnut grain isn't available otherwise I'd be on that.
     
  8. forex

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    ^ Too bad the walnut grain isn't available otherwise I'd be on that.

    It is available at AE website if you want them, just pay full retail.
     
  9. alliswell

    alliswell Well-Known Member

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    Why is the MacNeil not a long wing?

    I like the new walnut grain calf.

    [​IMG]


    I was thinking McClain, not MacNeil. Thanks for pointing that out. The Alden longwing is nicer than this.
     
  10. porcelain monkey

    porcelain monkey Well-Known Member

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    The Alden longwing is nicer than this.

    Why do you say this. Is it a general Alden > AE feeling (which is fine) or is it the styling of this particular shoe. I have not seen Alden in a pebble grain like this.
     
  11. alliswell

    alliswell Well-Known Member

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    the styling of this shoe - the wing is too low on the vamp.
     
  12. gnatty8

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    the styling of this shoe - the wing is too low on the vamp.

    And that medallion looks like it was accidentally placed too close to the sole in the front of the toe..
     
  13. Tarmac

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    if the 2 shoes without regard to price then Alden is better, but if you are on a budget, the AEs on discount are fine and will last just as long. And yes the AE's "wing" is pushed relatively far forward on the shoe.
     
  14. greekgeek

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    MacNeil in shell is very nice. The stitching is more robust on the AE's than the Alden's, more stitches per inch and doubled.

    That said I don't think you could go wrong with either pair, but if you can wait hunt for the real deal Kenmoors.
     
  15. Salad

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    ^ I've been searching ebay for some old Florsheims for awhile. Most of the time I search for "Florsheim Imperial" and then by size. The only problem is I'm not sure what size I should be searching for! I wear a sz. 9 Barrie and the only pair of AEs I have are the Fairfax also in a US9.
    What size Florsheim should I be looking for?

    In regard to the the wing being low on the vamp on these AEs, it looks kind of low on Leathersoul's "American Longwing" as well but it may just be the pics.
    For me, the perfect LW is the old Florsheim Imperial in chestnut grain. Short of that, I'd settle for the MacNeil in walnut grain.
     
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    IMO old Kenmoors fit true to size. Perhaps just a hair looser to accommodate woolish socks.
     
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    ^Cool. The search for a 9.5 continues...
     
  18. porcelain monkey

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    MacNeil in shell is very nice. The stitching is more robust on the AE's than the Alden's, more stitches per inch and doubled.

    That said I don't think you could go wrong with either pair, but if you can wait hunt for the real deal Kenmoors.


    Are Kenmoors and Imperials the same? I assume you are talking about vintage.
     
  19. greekgeek

    greekgeek Well-Known Member

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    As far as i can tell Kenmoor means "top of the line" in old Florsheim speak. Most often associated with the longwing style, the name Kenmoor predates the Imperial label. That said Kenmoors are often labelled as such in addition to the label Imperial and/or Royal Imperial.



    I am talking strictly vintage, I wouldn't buy the new Kenmoors.
     
  20. porcelain monkey

    porcelain monkey Well-Known Member

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    Any chance someone has a Florsheim timeline. That is, of the vintage longwings, when did they start doing the V Cleat and five nails in the waist? When did they stop? What other branding can help give the age of them. I was going to start a thread about this, and I still may, but thought I would ask here since it came up.
     

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