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A little advice?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by High_Roller, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. High_Roller

    High_Roller Well-Known Member

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    Alright, I think I've found the perfect bag for me. I just need some second opinions. Since it's on eBay, Do you think it's real? the seller has a handful of them listed, but I cant find anything to indicate it might be fake. Anyways, here it is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...item=948362514
     
  2. GQgeek

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    oops nm, pics are at the bottom heh. Ya, looks legit I guess. Either that or it's a really good fake.
     
  3. GQgeek

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    I'm looking at this guy's ebay store and he's got a lot of stuff and something like 2700 positives. I'd be interested to hear people's comments on the stuff as well. Think it's a boutique using ebay to get rid of stuff it couldn't sell at end of season sales?
     
  4. High_Roller

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    I have no idea..there is alot of positive feedback there though, and those messenger bags look really good. I'm probably gonna bid on one pretty soon. Could be one of those handbag boutiques. Since the only thing the seller is putting on are wallets, purses, messenger bags etc. etc.
     
  5. GQgeek

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    Ya, I'm thinking that too. I'm gonna bid on a couple items cause it looks pretty legit, and if not, whatever, the prices aren't exactly exorbitant. I'm almost positive that prada fakes (99% of them anyway) don't bother too much with the details like the lining etc. Oh and thanks for the link [​IMG] I think I'll be using this guy a lot for gifts etc., if after I get my stuff I know it's genuine.
     
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    I think they're real. Having bought some real prada items for my girlfriend, I found that the real prada bags have a diamond shape edge at the tip of the "R" in PRADA. Likewise, the the tip of the "R" on the fake PRADA sign is straight with just an arrow tip. From the Pictures, the prada bag looks real. Hope this helps.
     
  7. GQgeek

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    Heh, I bought 2 belts, a messenger bag and a purse (not for me ;p) from that ebay store. I guess we'll see in a few days whether it's real or not but like everyone here has already said, it looks legit.
     
  8. High_Roller

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    Alright, well, let me know how everything turns out. I'm gonna be signing up to bid on ebay within a month, so it'll be nice to hear from a buyer thats already purchased.
    Good luck.
     
  9. aybojs

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    While we're on the topic of prada items and ebay, I found a bunch of prada sport shirts up for auction. I'm a little worried cuz they're all from the same dealer and he seems to have this regular cycle of prada shirts which he puts out every few days, which I have been told tends to indicate fakes. On the other hand, he has a high feedback and power seller rating and shows close ups of the tags and nothing seems to be unusual. Nonetheless, maybe some ebay experts could reassure me before I do some bidding? here's an example one, he has many more like this
     
  10. GQgeek

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    Honestly I can't tell you much about it. Ya it's got tags that say prada but aside from that I don't know how you'd be able to tell having looked at the pictures. With clothes I guess you'd have to go on the quality of construction and the fabric used but you can't do that over the net. Personally, I don't own any prada clothes as I've never felt it was worth the price given the quality of the clothes. One of the telltale signs of fakes are that they're poorly made. Well... I've seen Prada shirts at retail stores with their buttons falling off before they've even been worn.

    Maybe someone who really knows the brand could give you some little things to look for that might help you tell if you're looking at a fake or not.
     
  11. bengal-stripe

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    I definitely would stay clear of "private auctions", unless it is for some item (usually of a sexual nature), which might be embarrassing to you. There is nothing embarrassing about a shirt.

    In a "private auction" you don't see whom you are bidding against. The seller might use several identities, and all his family and friends, to drive the price up. This seller likes "private auctions". There must be a  reason for this: you will be paying over the odds.
     
  12. High_Roller

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    I've heard that Prada Sport is one of the most frequently faked items on eBay. Take that for what it's worth.
     
  13. GQgeek

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    Probably, cause it's really not that hard to fake from the looks of it... And you gotta consider that a lot of the people that buy designer stuff off ebay are doing so cause they can't afford to pay retail for it. Consequently they're pretty ignorant as to what would constitute a fake or not since they don't have a lot of high quality clothes and it's pretty easy to pull one over on them.

    That's the only way I can see some of these power sellers having the huge numbers of positive comments that they do. People just don't know better, or they don't really care, they just want the label heh... Probably why prada sport is so populare, the label is impossible to miss, and I doubt Prada did that by accident ;p
     
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    Yeah, I've been a little turned off with Prada after hearing the negative opinions on it from all the knowledgeable types here, and even moreso after checking some out myself at the mall. I've just been looking for some modern/tech-style clubwear to complete my wardobe and Prada seemed like it was worth a shot if I could get it cheap, but with all the warnings here I think I should pass on that vendor. The other label I've been looking at is Theory, though I've been having trouble finding much selection(this shirt and this shirt look nice but I have a feeling I could find better in that price range). Guess I'll go lurk on ebay and hope something comes up.
     
  15. Joe G

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    Theory makes some nice stuff. I have a few Theory shirts that I find to be well-made. Another marque to look for that also does "modern" (blended cotton/wool/plastic, stretchy) fabrics is Samsonite Blacklabel.

    Peace,

    JG
     
  16. ulf

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    I followed the link in the first post in this thread and checked out the bag in question, as well as other offerings by the same seller. I have to say that I'm very suspicious about the authenticity of these bags and accessories... They appear to be fairly well made but a lot of details/materials seem odd or unusual.

    Most of the plain leathers have a strange rubbery shine to them, the holes in the buckle straps look slightly too large. The triangular metal Prada logo is very visible on practically all the bags, right in the middle of the front of them; in my experience these are usually placed more discreetly on the side of real Prada bags. I've never seen the big messenger bag with a front logo, for instance. (I might be confusing it with a similar model, though.)

    The leather wallets are also adorned with the metal logo; the ones I've seen (incl my own) simply have Prada embossed in the leather. The dustbags are all white with black print, the ones that came with my bags were navy with navy print. The dustbags probably come in different colours depending on what colour/style of bag you buy but they're definitely not all white.

    The engravings on the hardware don't look perfectly neat everywhere and appear to be facing the wrong way in some places on some bags. The overall finish is less than perfect on quite a few items. There are more things I find odd but since I don't have intimate knowledge about Prada's entire line of bags, I'll keep quiet about those.

    Sooo... I'm suspicious. Has anyone bought anything from this seller?
     
  17. LabelKing

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    Yes it does seem that the Prada bag has some nuances to the real ones. The Pradas I've seen at Neimans all had some type of patent leather for the buckles, and such. Also as Ulf pointed out the holes seemd large.

    Also I checked out the seller's other auctions, and there was an Armani belt that looked extremely badly made. And on the box it states "cinture" when since Armani is an Italian brand it should have "cintura" instead of "cinture" which is French without the "e." In French belt is "ceinture."

    The Prada wallet looked odd as "Made in Italy" was not together with the Prada name inside.
     
  18. ulf

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    This is actually correct, at least on some (all?) models. All my Prada stuff is genuine, bought from a reputable retailer. Inside my wallet it says "Prada" with "Milano" underneath on one side/panel, "Made in Italy" on another. And speaking of Prada and Milan, I'm moving to Milan sometime in Oct/Nov. I'll be there for 2 years, maybe longer. Â [​IMG]
     
  19. GQgeek

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    Well I bought one of the messenger bags and it arrived at my friends house yesterday. He's going to re-ship it to me in Canada so I'll get it sometime next week.

    Last week I was up in Montreal and I went to Holt Renfrew. They had a lot of Prada bags and one of them looked, as far as I can remember, exactly like the one I ordered. I didn't look really closely at them but I did pick it up and feel the material etc. I can tell you that the leather for the straps wasn't patent leather. Aside from that, I can't say too much about the details.

    As for the belts, you're right it should be Cintura, seems pretty fishy to me. On the other hand, my friend said the belts were VERY nice, and he's pretty in to clothes. Again, I'll have the judge the quality for myself when I get them. I own other Armani belts so I can compare the quality. Aside from the typo, what made you say they looked badly made?

    Anyway, when I get my bag, I'll definitely go back to Holt's and do a really close inspection of the bags there to compare them. If I got a fake one I'll be sending it back cause that's not what I bid on.
     
  20. LabelKing

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    What I thought odd of the belt was that the GA was rather badly engraved(?) on the buckle. On my Dunhill, and YSL belts the logos are very well made with the smallest details worked out. For some reason the belt buckle looks rather dull, and just sort of fakish.

    And another point is the box. I have seen real Armani boxes, and the paper was not of that type. The name also seems badly printed. The thing that is most disturbing is the "cinture."
     

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