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£150 black oxford recommendation?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by BareSolid, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. BareSolid

    BareSolid Well-Known Member

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    I was going to get the Alfred Sargent Epsom (actually £155) but I find that all their 'classic' collection shoes are of corrected grain leather. So does anyone have any better ideas? I'm not in the US so Allen Edmonds and that other one(Aldens?) are out of the question.

    Thanks ever so much.
     
  2. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Well-Known Member

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    Have a look at Loake's 1880 range.
     
  3. BareSolid

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    Have a look at Loake's 1880 range.

    So these are not CG? I was very surprised when Sargent told me theirs were CG.
     
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    I don't think the Epsom is CG. Skyvalet has them on sale not, btw.
     
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    I don't think the Epsom is CG. Skyvalet has them on sale not, btw.

    Have a look at this, a PM I was sent by the company on this site:

     
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    Sorry to jack your thread mate, but im after a £150 black brogue recommendation. Something sleek, not to 'clumpy' then again not too fashion foward. Love some help, id think of you when i wore them shoe gurus, cheers!
     
  9. Wes Bourne

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    Have a look at this, a PM I was sent by the company on this site



    Careful about arranging a visit; next thing you know, you're ordering MTO Sargents with dope bevelled waists and gorgeous sole treatment like clintonf. [​IMG]
     
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    Careful about arranging a visit; next thing you know, you're ordering MTO Sargents with dope bevelled waists and gorgeous sole treatment like clintonf. [​IMG]

    I suppose I'd have to already own a decent pair of shoes before I got to the Sargent factory so they didn't think I was a joker!
     
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    Shipton & Heneage usually have a good sale selection:

    http://www.shiptonandheneage.co.uk/s...-home-1-0.html


    They have a pair of nice looking suede derbies in size 9 that I'd quite like, they're £100... but I have never worn suede (or brown) shoes and would have no idea what to pair them with.
     
  13. Bounder

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    I was going to get the Alfred Sargent Epsom (actually £155) but I find that all their 'classic' collection shoes are of corrected grain leather. So does anyone have any better ideas? I'm not in the US so Allen Edmonds and that other one(Aldens?) are out of the question.

    Thanks ever so much.


    You need to set your sights higher.

    You are not a million miles from Northampton, the center of English shoemaking. Northampton is full of company stores that sell closeouts and seconds at big discounts, often 50%+. The seconds are usually almost perfect. You often have to spend quite some time examining the shoe to find something that you guess might be the reason it was made a second.

    So got to Northampton some Saturday and have a look around. You might well get a very nice shoe from, say, C&J in your price range.
     
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    I don't think the Epsom is CG. Skyvalet has them on sale not, btw.
    Yes they are. I have a pair. They're corrected grain. The man from Alfred Sargent said Epsom were corrected grain. Epsom = corrected grain.
     
  16. BareSolid

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    Yes they are. I have a pair. They're corrected grain. The man from Alfred Sargent said Epsom were corrected grain. Epsom = corrected grain.

    Yep. Now I am hearing that the 1880s are Corrected Grain too, I really don't want CG as I have a pair of CG shoes and they got cracked and creased after two wearings. As well, they are impossible to polish.
     
  17. Wes Bourne

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    Pretty sure my Loake 1880 "Badminton" was CG. It developed creases like ravines and had all the tell-tale signs. It didn't hold polish well. Maybe a mixed bag: some are, some are not.

    I don't think your Badminton are cg. Probably not the finest calfskin out there, but not cg either. I used to own an 1880 semi brogue on their 026 last. Leather on that one was pretty stiff, but still wasn't cg.

    Yep. Now I am hearing that the 1880s are Corrected Grain too, I really don't want CG as I have a pair of CG shoes and they got cracked and creased after two wearings. As well, they are impossible to polish.

    My Strands are calfskin, not cg. They take a great shine and actually have shown less creasing than several other shoes I own. That said, I believe all of the 1880 range is calfskin, but you'll have to read the description to make sure.
     
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    Have a look at this, a PM I was sent by the company on this site:

    My bad, I read Epsom & was thinking Aldeburgh. Here's the one I was talking about:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. psionite

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    This is a no-brainer go and visit the factory shops in Northampton:

    Northamptonshire Factory Shoe Shops


    Barker Shoes Ltd
    Station Road, Earls Barton, Northants, NN6 0NT
    Tel: \t\t\t\t01604 810 387

    Opening times: \t\tMon-Fri 10am-5pm
    \t\t \t \tSat 10am-4pm
    What type of shoes: \tDiscontinued lines etc
    Sizes:\t\t\t\tAll Men's
    Parking:\t\t\tCar Park

    Joseph Cheaney & Sons Ltd
    PO Box 1, Rushton Road, Desborough, Northants, NN14 2RZ
    Tel: \t\t\t\t01536 760 383

    Opening times: \t\tMon-Fri 10am-5pm
    \t\t\t\tSat 10am-4pm
    What type of shoes:\t\tDiscontinued lines, made for factory etc
    Sizes:\t\t\t\tAll Men's
    Parking:\t\t\tCar Park

    Church & Co Ltd
    St James, Northampton, Northants, NN5 5JB
    Tel: \t\t\t\t01604 751 251

    Opening times: \t\tMon-Fri 9.30am-4.30pm
    \t\t\t\tSat 9.30am-2pm
    What type of shoes:\t\tDiscontinued lines etc
    Sizes:\t\t\t\tAll men's 6-13
    Parking:\t\t\tCar Park

    Crockett & Jones Ltd
    Perry Street, Northampton, Northants, NN1 4HN
    Tel:\t\t\t\t01604 631 515

    Opening times: \t\tFri 2pm-5.30pm
    \t\t\t\tSat 9.30am-1.30pm
    What type of shoes:\t\tSlightly Seconds etc
    Sizes:\t\t\t\tAll men's
    Parking:\t\t\tStreet Parking


    William Green & Son Ltd
    Queen Street, Rushden, Northants, NN10 0AB
    Tel: \t\t\t\t01933 358 734

    Opening times:\t\tMon-Fri 9am-4pm
    What type of shoes:\t\tDiscontinued lines, rejects, catalogue
    Sizes:\t\t\t\tAll
    Parking:\t\t\tCar Park


    T Groocock & Co Ltd
    Kettering Parkway, Kettering Venture Park, Kettering, Northants, NN15 6WY
    Tel: \t\t\t\t01536 534 970

    Opening times: \t\tMon-Fri 9am-5pm
    \t\t \t\tSat 9am-12pm
    What type of shoes: \tSeconds, discontinued lines
    Sizes: \t\t\t\tAll men's 5-12
    Parking:\t\t\tStreet Parking

    R E Tricker Ltd
    56-60 St Michael's Road, Northampton, Northants, NN1 3JX
    Tel: \t\t\t\t01604 630 595

    Opening times:\tMon-Fri 9am-4.30pm
    What type of shoes:\tPerfect stock, seconds, discontinued lines\t
    Sizes: \tAll men's, Ladies'
    Parking:\tCar Park
     
  20. BareSolid

    BareSolid Well-Known Member

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    Seeing as Northampton's only half an hour on the train (though train travel is unpleasant and expensive these days due to privatization, "but at least you can get a cappucino") I might just take up your advice.
     

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