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post #1 of 74
1/26/09 at 1:15pm
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What do you guys think about it? I recently got it from a friend and I can't say it's complete shit. He doesn't recommend any pills and his diet advice is pretty decent. The exercises are also much more challenging then crunches.

Basically he emphasizes boosting RMR by working out 4-5 times a week but keeping workouts under 60 minutes. Spend most of of this time doing multi joint weight training and interval cardio, and 5-7 minutes of that workout the high resistance ab exercise since apparently you don't have to over train your abs to pop out, as long as you are under 10% body fat.

One thing that kind of bothered me is he recommended drinking non pasteurized milk..which is something I wouldn't think a licensed personal trainer would do.
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post #2 of 74
1/26/09 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by likeitaloud View Post
What do you guys think about it? I recently got it from a friend and I can't say it's complete shit. He doesn't recommend any pills and his diet advice is pretty decent. The exercises are also much more challenging then crunches.

Basically he emphasizes boosting RMR by working out 4-5 times a week but keeping workouts under 60 minutes. Spend most of of this time doing multi joint weight training and interval cardio, and 5-7 minutes of that workout the high resistance ab exercise since apparently you don't have to over train your abs to pop out, as long as you are under 10% body fat.

One thing that kind of bothered me is he recommended drinking non pasteurized milk..which is something I wouldn't think a licensed personal trainer would do.

The truth is, not everyone can have them. there is a Pen and Teller Bullshit! episode about that.

Otherwise I have not read/seen this Truth thing.
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post #3 of 74
1/26/09 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
The truth is, not everyone can have them. there is a Pen and Teller Bullshit! episode about that.

Otherwise I have not read/seen this Truth thing.

Anybody can have them- but few have the stamina, knowledge and determination to get them if they don't come naturally do their genetics and metabolism
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post #4 of 74
1/26/09 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post
Anybody can have them- but few have the stamina, knowledge and determination to get them if they don't come naturally do their genetics and metabolism

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post #5 of 74
1/27/09 at 6:17am
I don't know about that. I know people that eat well and way out train me and can't slim down or get a 6-pack. I put in almost no effort and I have one (knocks on wood). My ex hates that, among other things, about me.

ie: My roommate Kristen. She's not thin (not fat either, but about a size 10) and she's a marathon runner that trains every morning. She doesn't eat anything all that bad, the usual bar food here and there because that's life, but there is no budge in her weight. She'd have to starve herself and maybe get a parasite!
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post #6 of 74
1/27/09 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by likeitaloud View Post
What do you guys think about it? I recently got it from a friend and I can't say it's complete shit. He doesn't recommend any pills and his diet advice is pretty decent. The exercises are also much more challenging then crunches.

Basically he emphasizes boosting RMR by working out 4-5 times a week but keeping workouts under 60 minutes. Spend most of of this time doing multi joint weight training and interval cardio, and 5-7 minutes of that workout the high resistance ab exercise since apparently you don't have to over train your abs to pop out, as long as you are under 10% body fat.

One thing that kind of bothered me is he recommended drinking non pasteurized milk..which is something I wouldn't think a licensed personal trainer would do.

Do you know most pro bodybuilders dont train abs and yet they have razor sharp abs during competitions?

Do you know how they do it? Well, before competitions, they diet and do cardio and their abs work are basic stuff - crunches, leg raises etc. No hanging upside down or doing crunches with a 100 lbs hooked to their legs and 40 Kg plates behind their neck.

Dont overthink it.
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post #7 of 74
1/27/09 at 6:39am
Abs should always be lower weight/high rep. You don't want bulky abs. Also, stick to core exercises, along with workingout their primary target muscle, they will also workout your core. Flex your abs in all the exercises you do, where you can. Oh, trying rowing! I know no one other than me does it here but it works every part of your body. Your on your technique first, then work on your stamina and time.
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post #8 of 74
1/27/09 at 6:55am
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post

ie: My roommate Kristen. She's not thin (not fat either, but about a size 10) and she's a marathon runner that trains every morning. She doesn't eat anything all that bad, the usual bar food here and there because that's life, but there is no budge in her weight. She'd have to starve herself and maybe get a parasite!

There are a multitude of possibilities for her inability to lose weight.

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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
Abs should always be lower weight/high rep. You don't want bulky abs. Also, stick to core exercises, along with workingout their primary target muscle, they will also workout your core. Flex your abs in all the exercises you do, where you can.

Oh, trying rowing! I know no one other than me does it here but it works every part of your body. Your on your technique first, then work on your stamina and time.

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post #9 of 74
1/27/09 at 6:58am
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There are a multitude of possibilities for her inability to lose weight.
I know there are, that's why I said a 6-pack may not be for everyone. Doesn't mean you're not healthy. As for the other thing, that's old advice I received way back in the day and it's worked for me. I don't rock the boat when things work well. ... and this thread requires more info about the plan to answer the OP's question. It seems decent though. I don't know about the milk, I hear it's a growing trend but it's pretty unsafe and illegal to sell.
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post #10 of 74
1/27/09 at 10:01am
Some people are just more predispositioned to have six-pack abs than others. I've exercised and ate well for nearly five years now, easing up on my regimen ever now and then when I've gotten lazy, and trying different kinds of diets/routines for extended periods of time while eating a very strict diet. I've NEVER had visible abs. The last layer of fat around my belly is just too stubborn. And it's stayed that way even the two times I had different regimens that got me much skinnier than I should be. Still no abs. Considering what I've done in terms of diet and exercise and the fact that I've never gotten rid of that small layer of fat, I cannot IMAGINE what I'd have to do to actually get rid of it.
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post #11 of 74
1/27/09 at 10:02am
Try eating just 6 cans of tuna and running a 5K every day. It's the new diet phenomenon.
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post #12 of 74
1/27/09 at 11:37am
Why, should I eat a can of tuna while I run? I heard that was great because you're stimulating your metabolism with a small meal while stimulating your metabolism through your workout. Also, would a quick tuna shake be more appropriate before or after my workout?
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post #13 of 74
1/27/09 at 12:47pm
Greece has good tuna shakes.
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post #14 of 74
1/27/09 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post
Anybody can have them- but few have the stamina, knowledge and determination to get them if they don't come naturally do their genetics and metabolism

QFT

It may require measuring to the gram every meal you eat for years, as well as limiting yourself to the cleanest of clean diets, but it is possible. There exists a minimun amount of work required for anyone to get "the six-pack", but your indidvidual minimum may require more than you are willing to sacrifice for it.
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post #15 of 74
1/27/09 at 4:56pm
I have a somewhat visible 6 pack, yet by all accounts I am overweight. I do work out a couple of times a week, nothing like I used to, but while I have been gaining weight via poor diet and stress, I still have the ab definition and I rarely do targeted ab excercises anymore
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