Been wearing my new 517s (that's from an obscure brand called "Levy" or something) and I really like the fit, cut, feel, etc. They don't look awesome, and I know they are going to fall apart quickly. I had to wash them before I would have liked because the ass started getting saggy. Put them through the dryer for a while too (inside out of course) to make sure they are as shrunk as they're gonna get (probably won't do that often). I've decided what would fit best with my particular, shall we say, idiom, w/r/t clothing, would be to find some vintage actual Levis made of the better fabric and wear those, and refuse to pay more than 50 bucks or so. Assuming they will last more than twice as long as these, which were $18 or something, and will look much better during that time, it is definitely worth it to me. Failing that, I may look for repros in the style of the classics, like the (Uniqlo?) 517 style, etc. Personally, I think that even what appear to be 'classic' jean styles go out of fashion so quickly that paying a hell of a lot for a pair doesn't seem too wise to me (at my income level, anyway).