Wow- disappointed with Hickey

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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Fine dude-- I don't get the name calling in this thread.

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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you two guys are teeny wheeny bean poles

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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Dude-- you are an idiot.

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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Wow-- what a bunch of Douchebags.

You bought a shirt and it was too small for your liking. It's not the end of the world, settle down.

Originally Posted by NoVaguy

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Just copy the styling and send it to Jantzen!

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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Fine dude-- I don't get the name calling in this thread. I am not a fan of the sizing. I am a fan of the design. As I said I would have prob spent another 500-1000 bucks if the sizing were right for me. I sent a letter because I figure I a business would like to know that.
Can we be real for a second? Don't act like you just stepped in politely asked for an opinion and were verbally berated. You knew darn well that your combative wording and your unpopular opinion would be counter to that of most people in SW&D and now that you got exactly what you're looking for, you're playing the victim card. If you didn't understand that using phrases such as "twig arms" and "teeny weeny bean poles" might upset some people you're either extremely naive or unbelievably childish. If you weren't looking for a debate you would have posted this on the MC forum and everyone would have agreed with you. You KNEW that this would be the reaction you got and it's EXACTLY why you posted it here. I would love for Brooks Brothers to fit me how I like my clothes to fit. I spend much more than I should for a similar look but in a fit that is flattering to my body. I run daily, my strength training consists of nothing more than push ups and situps, and I watch what I eat -- their clothes aren't built for me. Would I send them a letter saying I would like their clothes to fit me? Perhaps. Would I go over to MC and whine that they should fit me by right and take subtle jabs at people who "eat too much" and "drink beer" and whose main activity consists of "mowing the lawn"? I'm too old for that.

Hickey cuts according to European sizing conventions. For most European brands, a 38R is a medium, as their measurements indicate (usually, for a slim cut shirt, a 2" allowance is made in the chest measurement). And I am reasonably athletic (though getting fatter than I used to be.) Zegna and other large Italian brands make special cuts for the US market that billow on me if I don't size down. So I do. You should do the inverse, and size up. A 46R is therefore an XXXL, and XXL is a 44R.

You've been around from the beginning, and should know that this is sort of a silly complaint, and that your OP was deliberately provocative.

What a dipshit.

Fine dude-- I don't get the name calling in this thread. I am not a fan of the sizing. I am a fan of the design. As I said I would have prob spent another 500-1000 bucks if the sizing were right for me. I sent a letter because I figure I a business would like to know that.

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Is this thread ******* serious? Why would they care that if they redesigned the line they'd get another $500? "You know, Chevrolet guys, that if you made a car that looked and felt like a Cadillac, I would give you my business." I'm sure when they get your email, they'll be rushing off to completely overhaul the templates for their shirts. How arrogant is it to think that telling a clothing company that they ought to tailor their clothes to your precise tastes will, or even should, have any sort of impact on them whatsoever? If you want a classic menswear fit buy your $500 of shirts from a brand that makes a more traditional cut. This is not difficult, because there are a lot of them. There are few enough makers that actually make shirts with slim arms. By the way, I could probably fit that shirt and my arms are in no danger of snapping off when I lift heavy objects, so we're good here. Wrong forum, wrong attitude.

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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Wow-- what a bunch of Douchebags. I won't be visiting this forum again.
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Originally Posted by CTGuy

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I've never had an issue.

Who is taking bets on whether he is really going to leave the forum

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I am not leaving the forum-- I just will not expect SW&D to accept any criticism of slim fit. Whoops.

Originally Posted by Lysol

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Can we be real for a second? Don't act like you just stepped in politely asked for an opinion and were verbally berated. You knew darn well that your combative wording and your unpopular opinion would be counter to that of most people in SW&D and now that you got exactly what you're looking for, you're playing the victim card.

If you didn't understand that using phrases such as "twig arms" and "teeny weeny bean poles" might upset some people you're either extremely naive or unbelievably childish. If you weren't looking for a debate you would have posted this on the MC forum and everyone would have agreed with you. You KNEW that this would be the reaction you got and it's EXACTLY why you posted it here.

I would love for Brooks Brothers to fit me how I like my clothes to fit. I spend much more than I should for a similar look but in a fit that is flattering to my body. I run daily, my strength training consists of nothing more than push ups and situps, and I watch what I eat -- their clothes aren't built for me. Would I send them a letter saying I would like their clothes to fit me? Perhaps. Would I go over to MC and whine that they should fit me by right and take subtle jabs at people who "eat too much" and "drink beer" and whose main activity consists of "mowing the lawn"? I'm too old for that.

Sorry dude-- I guess I was a little hurt when the first comment was that I am fat-- very cool.

Wahh wahh I'm too big to fit into most shirts.

Wahh wahh I'm too small to fit into most shirts.

What's your point? Lots of people have difficulty finding their size. I'm one of them, I don't send angry letters to people about MY SIZE not being right for their products.

Originally Posted by CTGuy

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Dude-- I by XL shirts from Hickey Freeman all the time, I was surprised to get such a radically different product from the same company. It's not "old navy" it's every other shirt I own-- Brooks Brothers, J Crew, Zegna, etc. Cut the name calling-- it's lame.

every one of those brands you mentioned are cut for fat americans. i once tried on a jcrew shirt in xs for ***** and giggles (because i would never lower myself to actually buy that crap), and it was almost laughable how big it was on me...

Originally Posted by Get Smart

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for a guy who's been on this forum since 2002, you cant be serious in not knowing that every label has different interpretation of sizes???

I can wear anything from a size XS to a size L depending on brand

46 is an XL??? not if you go by conventional sizing

36=XS
38=S
40=M
42=L
44=XL
46=XXL

but yea most brands have fat guy sizing where everything is bigger than it should be. Not to be a dick but you seem to have been expecting Old Navy sizing on a brand that is targeting "fashion boys" who are into really slim fitting gear.

i actually think it is more like:

34=XS
36=S
38=M
40=L
42=XL
44=XXL
46=XXXL

^^ in many designer Euro sizing it is. but most sizing charts I've come across (as well as label sizing) corresponds to a 38 being a size Small...but I personally agree with the Euro style sizing as being "accurate" in wider sense

I almost feel like he's trolling...