I thought they were both excellent. I'll deal with each one separately- Elephant Gus Van Sant's treastie on school violence, a semi-recreation of the Columbine school shootings that happened a number of years ago in Colorado. The long tracking shots and silences I believe is meant to evoke the placidness of suburban life and how it is shattered by this sudden violence. This technique also provides a bit of dramatic build-up. I liked how the movie interwove several different story lines and presented the incredible violence and atrocities in a matter-of-fact way. It was much more shocking to experience that way. I will admit that you have to be patient with this movie, the aformentioned tracking shots and long takes can be tedious. However, I think this is a feeling Van Sant wants to evoke in the film (re:Gerry). Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind What's not to like about this film? It's funny, it's off beat, the storyline is fairly original and it has a really great cast. I thoroughly enjoyed it, plus the Beck track "Everyone Needs Love Sometimes" is awesome. I think with movies like the ones you mentioned you have to come into it with a different mentality. When I go see a big commercial action movie I expect very little character depth, a fast paced storyline, and a good car chase or two. When I see something like "The Life Aquatic" I come into it expecting awesome music, amazing characters, and a quirky storyline. If you come into a movie with the wrong mentality you're either going to be suprised or disappointed. A.