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post #46 of 171
You could be right about the glut. But, at the same time, that doesn't create endless "sold" posts -- the glut is the result of stuff not selling. In my experience, stuff that will move still sells fairly quickly, so it's not like threads are getting bumped day after day, unless the seller is adding new items or lowering prices. My GF thread is proof of that.

Beyond that, I think there's already been a ruling on the "sold" posts, and it's that they're allowed for multiple-item threads. IIRC, we hashed over this when the rule was first enacted, and then again when I suggested asking sellers not to bump single-item threads just to say the item was sold. Even my suggestion warranted some concern.

The bottom line, to me, is that we should encourage multiple-item threads, not discourage it, and the only way to do so is allow such sellers a bit more leeway than the new guy trying to sell his used Gap shirt. While it's not fair for big sales threads to bump off the little ones time and again, the big ones require more time in the spotlight, just by their nature. There's a very good chance that a desirable, well-priced single item will sell in the span of an hour or two, or often only minutes. There's almost no chance that everything in a huge sales thread of 50 items will do so. If you ban all bumps, there will just be a huge uptick in the number of sales threads, making the problem worse, not better. Or sellers like Ed (and to a much lesser degree, myself) will just have all the less incentive to bother with selling. You'll end up with a forum filled with used shirts instead of all those NWT goodies we love so much.
post #47 of 171
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Originally Posted by dr.no View Post
I'll re-iterate my OP, "sold" posts are prohibited per LA Guys posting

I don't think this is correct. If you feel otherwise, please point me to LA Guy's post where he made this statement.

Here's the official ruling as written by m@t:
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Originally Posted by m@t
As noted over in transparent modding, please do not reply to your own threads to report "sold" on single items, or when your last item is sold. Instead do this by editing the original post.

Just a courtesy measure, as your "sold" post bumps other sellers off the front page.

Feel free to report it when you see it.
Link: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread...81#post1445181

Here's the discussion leading up to the current rules:
http://www.styleforum.net/showthread...30#post1444030
post #48 of 171
You KNOW a thread is over when you start getting multi-paragraph and multi-quote responses...
post #49 of 171
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
Beyond that, I think there's already been a ruling on the "sold" posts, and it's that they're allowed for multiple-item threads. IIRC, we hashed over this when the rule was first enacted, and then again when I suggested asking sellers not to bump single-item threads just to say the item was sold. Even my suggestion warranted some concern.

The bottom line, to me, is that we should encourage multiple-item threads, not discourage it, and the only way to do so is allow such sellers a bit more leeway than the new guy trying to sell his used Gap shirt. While it's not fair for big sales threads to bump off the little ones time and again, the big ones require more time in the spotlight, just by their nature. There's a very good chance that a desirable, well-priced single item will sell in the span of an hour or two, or often only minutes. There's almost no chance that everything in a huge sales thread of 50 items will do so. If you ban all bumps, there will just be a huge uptick in the number of sales threads, making the problem worse, not better.

Agreed 100%.

Of course, my opinion is significantly biased! But still, I do think you're quite correct both from a seller's perspective and a general board perspective.
post #50 of 171
I think the difference of opinion on whether "sold" posts are allowed lies in the interpretation of "on single items" from M@T post quoted below.

As noted over in transparent modding, please do not reply to your own threads to report "sold" on single items, or when your last item is sold. Instead do this by editing the original post.

You could easily interpret it as referring to single item posts or, alternately, to single items in a multi-item post. Perhaps we should ask for a court ruling.
post #51 of 171
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Originally Posted by tonylumpkin View Post
I think the difference of opinion on whether "sold" posts are allowed lies in the interpretation of "on single items" from M@T post quoted below.

As noted over in transparent modding, please do not reply to your own threads to report "sold" on single items, or when your last item is sold. Instead do this by editing the original post.

You could easily interpret it as referring to single item posts or, alternately, to single items in a multi-item post. Perhaps we should ask for a court ruling.

Again, I think there's been one. His post, IIRC, was inspired by my request that we ask people who list only a single item not to bump their thread when the item sold. (Pointless ... and a waste of time for people clicking on it.) This was an addition to the ruling that "sold" posts were OK for multi-item threads.
post #52 of 171
I don't get all the talk about which bumps are prohibited or not, prior to a discussion of why iphones and cd players get posted (and are tolerated) on a clothing forum.
post #53 of 171
Umm m@t did close a thread once in which the seller bumped for sold items. But then again that seller also crossposted streetwear to men's clothing so.. I don't know. More importantly, I have some prohibited bumps on my penis, what shall I do?
post #54 of 171
I was not aware that we were allowing "sold bumps" for multi item threads. Honestly I don't think that's so bad as long as it isn't happening more than every day or so. I know things sell faster, but you can edit the OP to reflect what items are sold. We definitely want to encourage the multi-item sellers for the service they provide, but I don't want to let the rules discourage others from selling just their one item.
post #55 of 171
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Originally Posted by j View Post
I was not aware that we were allowing "sold bumps" for multi item threads. Honestly I don't think that's so bad as long as it isn't happening more than every day or so. I know things sell faster, but you can edit the OP to reflect what items are sold. We definitely want to encourage the multi-item sellers for the service they provide, but I don't want to let the rules discourage others from selling just their one item.

Definitely agree with this compromise.

Besides, what would be point in using it more than once a day? The traffic isn't that insane here. The thread would still be one the first or second page within a day and only knocked off the first couple of pages after more than a day.

Thanks for the clarification that otherwise it's OK for multi-item sellers to use "sold item X".
post #56 of 171
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Originally Posted by mccvi View Post
I don't get all the talk about which bumps are prohibited or not, prior to a discussion of why iphones and cd players get posted (and are tolerated) on a clothing forum.

I suggested a "other" classifieds for everything from furniture to audio equipment with no such luck. Fok said if we get enough requests, they may implement it. I think it'd be a good idea, with us having the "fine living" sub-forum and all....
post #57 of 171
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Originally Posted by Nataku View Post
I suggested a "other" classifieds for everything from furniture to audio equipment with no such luck. Fok said if we get enough requests, they may implement it. I think it'd be a good idea, with us having the "fine living" sub-forum and all....

+1
post #58 of 171
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Originally Posted by Nataku View Post
I suggested a "other" classifieds for everything from furniture to audio equipment with no such luck. Fok said if we get enough requests, they may implement it. I think it'd be a good idea, with us having the "fine living" sub-forum and all....

+1 That would be nice.
post #59 of 171
post #60 of 171
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Originally Posted by j View Post
I was not aware that we were allowing "sold bumps" for multi item threads. Honestly I don't think that's so bad as long as it isn't happening more than every day or so. I know things sell faster, but you can edit the OP to reflect what items are sold. We definitely want to encourage the multi-item sellers for the service they provide, but I don't want to let the rules discourage others from selling just their one item.
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post
Definitely agree with this compromise. Besides, what would be point in using it more than once a day? The traffic isn't that insane here. The thread would still be one the first or second page within a day and only knocked off the first couple of pages after more than a day. Thanks for the clarification that otherwise it's OK for multi-item sellers to use "sold item X".
Yeah you'd think. I wouldn't even care if he didn't have 13 separate threads for these.
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