Whole cut what do you recommend?

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(Panzeraxe @ Mar. 31 2005,22:37) What are those?
I'm pretty sure those are made by Santoni.
Santoni, fatte a mano, will set you back about 1500 at the boutique. koji

Lobb is currently offering a special: Purchase two pairs of bespoke shoes and receive a $400 discount off the second pair.  Although you missed my birthday in January, I'd still appreciatively accept a pair of Lobb wholecuts as a belated present.
Grayson

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That is so exciting. $400 off a $9000 purchase (excluding shipping and surcharge if you live outside UK). This is a real helper.

A few more options: - RLPL is running a MTM special right now. $850: you choose the last, the leather, and design. Not cheap, but not a bad price either. - Santoni has about three or four whole-cut offerings right now. Priced between $1000-1600. BTW, the $1600 are amazing--they have a different sock liner from the tan, scalloped, Fatte a Mano line. Santoni "signature" or "select". The brown was beautiful, if not slightly ostentacious, with a rim of skin stiching around the throat and quarters. - Tanino Crisci online?

I echo the opinions regarding the first shoe, I like it much better. I have become a fan of the wholecut shoe, I like the simplicity and sleekness (is that even a word?) that comes with a lack of seams. Here are a few I've been lucky enogh to acquire. http://img23.exs.cx/img23/6697/lattanzis7em.jpg

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(NoVaguy @ Mar. 31 2005,20:54)

Originally Posted by Panzeraxe,Mar. 31 2005,22:37

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What are those?
I'm pretty sure those are made by Santoni.
Santoni, fatte a mano, will set you back about 1500 at the boutique. koji
That's right, but Santoni for 1500?? I think they might be around 850 euros (1100 dollar). This particular model wasn't sold in Holland unfortunately, but I have seen some others with this lining for about 850. Which is more than twice as expensive as the Santoni's I currently own (the orange liner). Santoni is available from about 300 euros btw. They also have a very nice wholecut model that is on sale for 360 euros over here.

I think these Alfred Sargents look promising If nothing else, I've been curious as to the quality of the AS Premier Exclusive range. These shoes are in a great shade of brown IMO (I like the darker browns).

I owned those AS wholecuts a few years ago; Purchased them at a ridiculous discount at Bergdorf Goodman, although I had not heard of the brand name. Took a chance thinking how could I go wrong? Turned out to have been a waste of good money as the shoes self-destructed pretty quickly under very light wear. Same unfortunate ending with the other pr. of AS shoes purchased.
Grayson

I'm always curious when people talk about shoes "self-destructing." What does that mean exactly?

In my case with the AS shoes, the stitching started to fray in various parts of the shoe after just a few months, and then the leather pieces came apart at the seams with the stitching undone. The leather also took on a cheap look and feel. Actually, the leather was cheap-looking to begin with. Look at the shoelaces in the picture: Cheap laces that tore apart after just a few wearings. When you have a real quality pr. of shoes, you see the differences.
Grayson

Am anxiously awaiting the arrival of a new pair of CJ weymouths. If they are half as beautiful as the picture, I will be a happy man

Now, with C&J, you've made an intelligent purchase. Head and shoulders over AS, in my experience. Broke my heart to have given away a pr of C&J Savile monks.
Grayson

I'm always curious when people talk about shoes "self-destructing."  What does that mean exactly?

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Ever watched Mission Impossible?  There you go. I really like the second pair, for what it's worth.

I echo the opinions regarding the first shoe, I like it much better. Â I have become a fan of the wholecut shoe, I like the simplicity and sleekness (is that even a word?) that comes with a lack of seams. Here are a few I've been lucky enogh to acquire. http://img23.exs.cx/img23/6697/lattanzis7em.jpg

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Those are some interesting shoe trees that you have in some of those shoes. Do you mind mentioning where you got them?

drljva,

They actually came with the shoes. The one on the top right pair is his new design, the ones with the "toggle handle" are his old design.

A few more options: - RLPL is running a MTM special right now. Â $850: you choose the last, the leather, and design. Â Not cheap, but not a bad price either. - Santoni has about three or four whole-cut offerings right now. Â Priced between $1000-1600. Â BTW, the $1600 are amazing--they have a different sock liner from the tan, scalloped, Fatte a Mano line. Â Santoni "signature" or "select". Â The brown was beautiful, if not slightly ostentacious, with a rim of skin stiching around the throat and quarters. - Tanino Crisci online?

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As nice as those sound they are alittle out of the price range for an undergrad. I'm looking to stay under $500 if possible.