Originally Posted by cpmac7
hey noir, i appreciate you making this thread. i believe this is what forums should be about. Helping each other out with knowledge that others do not have. Anyways, I am 6'0 about 175-180 and looking at gaining about 20 LB of muscle while still keeping my 6 pack.Is this even possible? Little background: i am a full time college student, working, and I work out about 4-5 times a week. One of my problems is that i only eat 1-2 times a day. I take N O xplode and I am going to start taking Monster Milk. Any input will be much appreciated.
eat more! I outlined in an earlier post a diet style that lets you gain without putting on too much excess fat. 2 times a day supplemented with shakes is alright, but obviously not ideal.
Originally Posted by mkerr
if you can put the effort into working out 4-5 times a week, and are apparently willing to spend $ on supplements etc, why not spend the comparatively minimal effort and eat properly?
Both are important and tbh eating properly consistently is imo harder than 5 hrs in the gym and $50. But yes, eating is crucial. Eating a lot is even more crucial when you're having trouble gaining weight.
Originally Posted by Brian SD
It may not be the same way for you guys but I find it extremely hard to eat enough to gain weight. I just don't feel that hungry and usually end up taking in sub-2200 calories in a day. I'll do things like buy a can of mixed nuts and try to down some even when I'm already full but I've never been able to put more than 5 lbs on my frame and if I do it always drops back down to 140 if I slack at all on the caloric intake. I don't take supplements, but comparitively speaking, eating a lot takes a lot of effort for me.
I've been there. I was 122 as a freshman in college and I ate 3-4 times/day in the cafeteria (unlimited meal plan) and downed usually 3 shakes a day. I dreaded eating because I knew I would stuff in so much food it was going to make me feel terrible. But I didn't care and was tired of being so skinny. I tallied it up for a few days and I was between 4500-6000, mostly averaging around the 5k mark. Now it's easier to eat the necessary food because (1) I have more tissue to feed so I can eat more, and (2) I don't eat but around 3200 calories any more. Still a lot but not impossible clean. Shakes are a huge life and time saver. You're also a bastard because you have a more photogenic (read: better looking in general) face than I do.
I'm sad to say that's my limiting factor in taking it further. shoot me a PM if you're serious about putting something on your frame and I'll detail what I did to start. I don't necessarily want to put it here because it's atypical. For anyone who wants to lean up (which is what the majority of PMs I've gotten are about), I don't think you should eat 5k+/day :-P And if you need to, you have enough muscle that I would take advice from you. I was already in pretty good shape but just had little muscle mass or weight training experience, but a fiendish metabolism.
Originally Posted by James Bond
NO products are bullshit.
I'm not a fan tbh. I've taken them before and my workouts might be marginally better, but not enough to merit the price. I'd rather spend the money on food or a night out.
Originally Posted by cpmac7
Like I stated before. I gotta work and go to school full time. You guys are right tho. I think the only way to do this is if i eat properly.
Man it's like this. Everyone is busy. I'm going through recruiting, a full courseload at a demanding school (i don't want to be specific but it's an ivy), I work as a consultant for a nutrition store, work with a few clients back home on diets and routines for shoots/competitions, and I'm on the board of directors for a precious metal/natural resource mining corporation. That's without getting into my personal life which has turned into one gigantic clusterfuck. If it's something you want you'll find the time to do it. It sucks but there really is no easy way to get it done. I doubt anyone will sleight you for having a shake while you're at your desk. Otherwise most places have 5-15m breaks and you can down something then. Invest in a blender. Magic bullets are like $50 (about the same as your no.xplode). Mix a shake up, put it in a cup with a lid and drink it when necessary.
Originally Posted by Eason
Not when you get 5-6 hours of sleep a night, work 10 hour shifts, and the only time you can work out is right after work. NOXplode saves fucking lives.
I still hate noxplode. I crashed exactly 30 minutes after taking it and it raped my stomach. If I was going to take a pre workout drink, Arnge crush is pretty good. It tastes a lot like kool-aid and was a lot easier on my stomach (which is admittedly very weak). serving per serving it's about the same cost-wise (i.e. more expensive but you don't need double or triple scoops like you do for NO. I doubled up once when I was stimulant tolerant [popping diet and energy pills like candy. I think I had some ephedra as well] and I thought I was going to die. Shit's stout.) For straight energy I'm still a redline junkie.