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post #61 of 66
Didn't you go to your fantasy gym just now? Enjoy your fantasy exercise, fantasy-fit guy! Let us know when you decide to grow a pair and back up your BS with a picture.
post #62 of 66
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i weighed in tonight a bit below 186....
post #63 of 66
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I've been going daily, almost twice daily often, and the weight is still the same.Yes its been since Jan 1st since I've started working out....I"ve been taking protein, I'm not drinking.... I'm noticing a lot more muscle, but I'm trying to lose weight ! urgh.
post #64 of 66
Are you losing fat? Do you see more definition of your muscles? Are you dropping your waist size? If the answers to all these questions is yes and you are noticing more muscle, why do you care if your weight isn't going down? By the way, if you are dead set on losing weight, have you calculated what your daily maintenance calorie value is, and have you kept an honest log of your daily calorie intake? Shooting for 500 Kcal under your daily maintenance will allow you to lose weight gradually. There are more radical methods but probably not for a beginner.
post #65 of 66
As people have told me, weight is just a gauge of progress but is not the only measure of progress in fat loss and should not be a goal. I'm assuming by losing weight what you really mean is decreasing body fat percentage. That is what you need to be measuring, not just raw weight. Additionally if you are maintaining the same weight but you are looking more muscular, then surely that would be an indicator of a decrease in body fat and an increase in lean muscle mass. Get measured.

Also I only read the first and last pages and on the first page you said you only ate 1100 kcals/day...that is way too little. Your body has adjusted itself to operate in a several caloric deficient environment so unless you just starve yourself you won't be losing any more weight with that.

http://www.shapefit.com/basal-metabolic-rate.html

That's a pretty good read on basal metabolic rate and all that.
post #66 of 66
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Also I only read the first and last pages and on the first page you said you only ate 1100 kcals/day...that is way too little. Your body has adjusted itself to operate in a several caloric deficient environment so unless you just starve yourself you won't be losing any more weight with that.

http://www.shapefit.com/basal-metabolic-rate.html

That's a pretty good read on basal metabolic rate and all that.

Looking at Ancel Key's Minnesota starvation study:

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...This was followed by a 6-mo semistarvation period, beginning on February 12, 1945, in which they received 1800 kcal (7531 kJ) of food/d, with the starvation diet reflecting that experienced in the war-torn areas of Europe, i.e., potatoes, turnips, rutabagas, dark bread, and macaroni. The final 3 mo were a nutritional rehabilitation period, in which the men were randomly assigned to 1 of 4 energy intake groups; each energy level was subdivided into 2 protein levels, and each protein level into 2 vitamin levels.

During the study, participants were assigned to various housekeeping and administrative duties within the laboratory and were allowed to participate in university classes and activities. The participants were expected to walk 22 mi (35.4 km)/wk and expend 3009 kcal (12552 kJ)/d....

So, they ate a lot more than 1100cal/day but they also expended more calories than the OP would, yielding a similar caloric deficit. 6 straight months of this yielded roughly a 50% degradation in RMR, IIRC, and the main source of calories appears to have been carbs. Cutting my RMR in half and adjusting for exercise means that I would still be losing weight(slowly) even at that point.

Metabolic slowdown definitely exists but it seems to me that ultra low calories can work especially if one gets plenty of protein and EFAs. I know that Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook is based on this idea and I'm sure that there are others. I'd love to hear other viewpoints on this as it seems like a lot of people are still stuck in the "eat 6 times a day and don't cut many calories!" mode.
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