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post #16 of 42
I don't know if you're interested in John Lobb - Paris, but I was at their store on Madison Avenue yesterday and was told that one of their master fitters and lastmaker will be on site on Feb 17th through 21st. The salesperson mentioned that the bespoke service starts at $3,800.
post #17 of 42
I've heard so many mixed things about Lobb - general reputation aside, many of the things I've read (here included) seem to indicate that there are other "just as good" choices. Based on some of the experiences that people have expressed I am hesitant to jump in with them for my first bespoke shoe purchase. Perry is a big consideration for me but just trying to do all my homework before deciding. Thanks.
post #18 of 42
Originally posted by Cpal:
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I've heard so many mixed things about Lobb - general reputation aside, many of the things I've read (here included) seem to indicate that there are other "just as good" choices. Based on some of the experiences that people have expressed I am hesitant to jump in with them for my first bespoke shoe purchase.
I can recommend Lobb Paris unconditionally. They make extremely beautiful shoes: workmanship is top rate, last shape is exquisite, and the finish of the leather is extrodinary.. They can make a fat foot like mine look slim and elegant.. Another recommendation is Lattanzi, although pricier, I have no other bespoke that is instantly as comfortable (to be fair, no ready made or made to measure shoe of mine comes close to the comfort of a bespoke shoe - excluding sneakers of course.).
post #19 of 42
Prior to completely discounting the grumpy proprietor of Vincent & Edgar, consider the following points: 1] Unlike everyone else so far mentioned, Roman works completely alone except for occasional assistance from his wife. Any time spent speaking with you is directly deducted from that day's crafting. If you've gone to him without an entre from a friend or present client, all you are in his eyes is an unwelcome interruption. If you notice, I closed my shop on Madison Avenue in order that I could remove the unwanted interruptions from my life and spend my time concentrating on the art of custom shirtmaking. Some have responded with derision to my "interview" of potential clients meant to see if a relationship can happen. Roman ... and I ... want to spend our time creating the best that can be ... not repeating the same discussion of the merits of various lasts or split yokes with everyone who crosses the threshhold. If you are a serious client, neither of us will be grumpy. 2] Everything Roman does is an original design. His strange samples, wierd though they may be, show a history of bootmaking going back at least three generations. It is my personal knowledge that he has absolutely no time for making samples - and also that he is quite proud of that history. His is one of the truly rare tales of an art being passed down through the generations from his grandfather who was literally the bootmaker to the Russian Czars. That in contrast to virtually every other name mentioned where nothing has been passed down except a name. 3] You need to make of your bootmaker only one request: Show me the last from which you will begin my shoes. If you are shown a last (just as in "house style" as pertains to shirts) you have been had. The only acceptable pattern for a custom shirt is a blank paper. The only acceptable last for a custom shoe is a rectangular block of wood.
post #20 of 42
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Does Edward Green or Cleverley have visits to measure for bespoke that anyone knows about in the next few months?
Both Edward Green (bespoke) and Cleverley visit the States to take orders and measurements. They usually come in the spring, but you would have to contact them directly for the exact dates.
post #21 of 42
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Does Edward Green or Cleverley have visits to measure for bespoke that anyone knows about in the next few months?
Tony Gaziano, who runs Edward Green's bespoke division, should be visiting the US shortly--I'll be doing a fitting with him for my first pair of EG bespoke shoes.
post #22 of 42
I also received word from Cleverley that they will be here in the spring as well - looks like I've gotta make a decision (chosing both might result in personal financial ruin). Oh, and then there's Perry Ercolino ... Anyone with a recommendation on which of the three to chose for my first bespoke shoe purchase?
post #23 of 42
Originally posted by Matadorpoeta:
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...does anyone know of a true custom shoe maker? i'm not talking about custom fit/last, but one who will actually make a shoe from scratch according to your own design, the way a custom tailor might work from a picture in a magazine or a drawing of yours.
Sometime in August or September I am heading to Rome again and will bring my Cleverley side elastic shoe. I will see if Lattanzi can make a similar shoe with a few modifications. The main reason I am trying this is because of all my bespokes, the most immediately comfortable shoe was by Silvano Lattanzi (not that any of the others were painful mind you). I want to do a bit of modifiation on the Cleverley design and see if he can do it.
post #24 of 42
Cleverley was in NY back in September or so. He is coming back in February, early March. Be sure to make appointment, otherwise you may not be allocated with enough time to even look through the leathers. He will also bring some ready-made.
post #25 of 42
Originally posted by Marc39:
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Tony Gaziano, who runs Edward Green's bespoke division, should be visiting the US shortly--I'll be doing a fitting with him for my first pair of EG bespoke shoes.
Is this your second EG bespokes? I remember you mentioning back in the Shoe Horse topic that you had a pair of bespokes on order? Clarify please. I am interested in the result of your shoes, since I like the looks of his examples on the EG webpage, the shoes are nice and elongated, more along the lines of Cleverley.
post #26 of 42
Anyone with any domestic bespoke shoe experiences to share? I've heard nothing but positives on Perry Ercolino. Vincent & Edgar receive some mixed reviews (no quality or styling concerns just seem to be more service/personality related). I assume that there must be other top-quality shoemakers domestically worthy of mention but they seem to keep themselves well hidden - anyone have any to recommend/discuss?
post #27 of 42
Or Oliver Moore - I've found brief mentions of this shop and Vogel but nobody seems to have any first-hand experience with either. Curious what do the shoe experts think of the construction of the Vogel shoes (if anyone has seen any first-hand)? They seem almost "too inexpensive" for true custom, at least as compared to Ercolino, Vincent & Edgar, EGreen, etc..
post #28 of 42
I'm interested in learning more about Vogel too. I'm curious if the the prices from 1999 listed on their website are still valid (app. $850 for the first pair if I remember correctly - $650 for subsequent pairs). Their website seems to be down at this instant so I can't confirm. At these prices I'm tempted to give them a shot without any recommendations. Maybe a pair of boots rather than dress shoes, since that's more their speciality.
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Or Oliver Moore - I've found brief mentions of this shop and Vogel but nobody seems to have any first-hand experience with either. Curious what do the shoe experts think of the construction of the Vogel shoes (if anyone has seen any first-hand)? They seem almost "too inexpensive" for true custom, at least as compared to Ercolino, Vincent & Edgar, EGreen, etc..
post #29 of 42
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Or Oliver Moore - I've found brief mentions of this shop and Vogel but nobody seems to have any first-hand experience with either.
I've been very curious about Oliver Moore, too. Those antique tan scotch grain wingtips from Oliver Moore in the Vass book are truly stunning.
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Curious what do the shoe experts think of the construction of the Vogel shoes (if anyone has seen any first-hand)? They seem almost "too inexpensive" for true custom, at least as compared to Ercolino, Vincent & Edgar, EGreen, etc..
Aside from the blurb in the Vass book and the Vogel website, the only material that I've ever seen about Vogel was in an article in GQ a few years ago. They sent a number of writers to get different peices of custom-made clothes, and the guy responsible for shoes went to Vogel. The article was very complimentary, but the shoes didn't do much for me. Of course, that could be the fault of the author as much as Vogel. For the price, I'd be willing to bet that Vogel shoes are machine-made on modified stock lasts. They still might be great shoes, I don't know; but I'd be floored if they were in the same category as the handmade bespoke cordwainers. I haven't actually ever seen a pair, so this is all just speculation.
post #30 of 42
Has anyone acquired any additional information about, or better yet, actually ordered a pair of shoes from Vogel?  The prices (approx. $850, 1st order; $650, subsequent orders)  seem just too attractive for full bespoke. On the other hand, I'd hate to find that my cynicism kept me from discovering a great shoe at a great price.
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