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post #76 of 88
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Yep, glued. Thought I'd wear them as rain shoes -- they looked nice enough at the time -- but now I don't wear them at all. As far as I can recall, they're the worst shoes I've ever bought.

I've never seen a pair of Aristocrafts in a store, I don't think. Wouldn't even know where to look for them.

Bear in mind the moral hazard involved in buying a shoe to be a rain shoe. It's obviously going to get harsher treatment and get wetter than your finer shoes. That may account for a fair portion of their crappy disposition.
post #77 of 88
Getting back to the point... 1. American made J&M Aristocraft (The Ski Moc even had a Aristocraft version) 2. Pre Nike CH 3. Waaaaaay down the road Kenneth Cole
post #78 of 88
I don't know what any of you are talking about. Seems people are always having stuff suddenly "fall right apart," whatever the product in question is.

I own shoes from all 3 companies. I have a pair of j&s fisherman sandals that are some of the most rock solid shoes I've ever seen. The kenneth coles I just bought the other day are some of the best-fitting shoes I've ever worn. Nothing has ever fallen apart on me.

Not saying you're all lying, trend-whoring snobs, but that's been my experience with those companies.
post #79 of 88
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http://www.shoesofthepresidents.com/index.htm interesting about johnston & murphy
Cool site
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The Obama's shoes is an ugly pair of shoes.
+1. They are pretty awful.
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I don't know what any of you are talking about. Seems people are always having stuff suddenly "fall right apart," whatever the product in question is. I own shoes from all 3 companies. I have a pair of j&s fisherman sandals that are some of the most rock solid shoes I've ever seen. The kenneth coles I just bought the other day are some of the best-fitting shoes I've ever worn. Nothing has ever fallen apart on me. Not saying you're all lying, trend-whoring snobs, but that's been my experience with those companies.
Thanks
post #80 of 88
I like the Lincoln boot that they did


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Cool site


+1. They are pretty awful.


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post #81 of 88
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
Eh, we all have to make up our own minds about what consitutes good value for our money. But here's what put me off them:



That's my one and only pair of mainline J&Ms, purchased on sale for $50. And here's how much wear they received to end up in that condition:



That's $50 wasted, in my book. They live in the back of my closet, awaiting donation.

Donate them to a poor graduate student who is tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt..

*ahem*
post #82 of 88
I just dropped a pair of Johnston and Murphy shoes off to get resoled. I was always under the impression that these were very respectable if unremarkable shoes. I am I wrong?
post #83 of 88
I own a bunch of cole haan shoes and they have actually stood up well to abuse (one pair I have had for 4 years and they look beaten but are no where near falling apart). They aren't the best looking either but the Nike air soles are amazing and probably the most comfortable dress shoes I own.
post #84 of 88
People on this forum love to say they fell apart I have probable had 300 to 400 pairs of shoes I buy what I like I see a pair of saddle shoes by Cole Haan I buy them.
I own to boot, kenneth cole, ae, alden, c&j, basically what I am saying I have spent $100 to about $1000 on shoes and I have never ever had a pair just fall apart especially in a month.
I weigh about 250 so I am not light on the shoes either just walking around unless the shoe was held together with bubble gum they would not fall apart.
Unless you plan to put your shoes through a toture test like the wolverine 1000 mile guy does then I would say any shoe could last a month under normal wear. Not everyone can afford $500 shoes or even $100 shoes so if all shoes feel apart that didnt cost $500 where would society be everyone would be forced to spend that much on shoes if they wanted to just walk around.

Think about how dumb that really is every time some states I bought XXXXXXX shoes and they fell apart because they werent good build quality and unless you spend over $300 thats just what happens. Now tell me how is anyone going to ever buy Bass or Hushpuppy or like a million other brands that are on the lower price spectrum they would all be out of business by now.
Edited by gregedgewater1 - 4/9/12 at 12:27pm
post #85 of 88
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People on this forum love to say they fell apart I have probable had 300 to 400 pairs of shoes I buy what I like I see a pair of saddle shoes by Cole Haan I buy them.
I own to boot, kenneth cole, ae, alden, c&j, basically what I am saying I have spent $100 to about $1000 on shoes and I have never ever had a pair just fall apart especially in a month.
I weigh about 250 so I am not light on the shoes either just walking around unless the shoe was held together with bubble gum they would not fall apart.
Unless you plan to put your shoes through a toture test like the wolverine 1000 mile guy does then I would say any shoe could last a month under normal wear. Not everyone can afford $500 shoes or even $100 shoes so if all shoes feel apart that didnt cost $500 where would society be everyone would be forced to spend that much on shoes if they wanted to just walk around.
Think about how dumb that really is every time some states I bought XXXXXXX shoes and they fell apart because they werent good build quality and unless you spend over $300 thats just what happens. Now tell me how is anyone going to ever buy Bass or Hushpuppy or like a million other brands that are on the lower price spectrum they would all be out of business by now.

 

I'm going to have to totally disagree with that. I bought a pair of Schuh brogue boots about a year ago (This was pre-understanding-good-quality-footwear for me. I've grown up.) I needed to resole and reheel them within 2 weeks of moderate wear. Now most of the stitching has come undone and the shoe has quite literally "fallen apart". I upgraded to a pair of Loake dainite soled ones after about a month of owning the Schuh ones and continue to wear them heavily - the difference between highstreet and even entry level shoemaker is night and day!

 

post #86 of 88
I stand by my statement based on the fact that a huge percentage of people live at or just above the poverty level. I went to public school and there were never any kids without shoes there. My British Knights didn't fall a part in a week once my parents went all out and got me some sperry rip-off top siders from Mervins and those lasted all year.
Cheap shoes can be just as tough as $700 Aldens.
They may not last a lifetime like people are prone to say about aldens but I like getting new shoes a lot so maybe I dont need them to last 50yrs.
Edited by gregedgewater1 - 4/10/12 at 12:05pm
post #87 of 88
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Edited by gregedgewater1 - 4/10/12 at 12:00pm
post #88 of 88

I own both KC and CH...

 

Kenneth Cole is comfortable, good price, average quality but their biggest shortcoming is that they do lack on style..I didn't like their customer service.

 

Cole Haan of better quality, but not oustanding and not matching their pricing..... They can improve a lot in terms of hand work..still they are higher than KC on almost every aspect..Their customer service is pleasant experience as well

 

Have no experience with JM to comment...

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