Setup: I work in an office environment, where it's smart-casual. For most that's buisness clothing, sans tie. I have another look which I wear to work, which is polo + jean, which is my casual look (making me the most 'casual'[as aposed to style] person in the office) Objective: trying to do was mix my two looks. method: I picked my most ill fitting shirt (fits great on the shoulders, as you've all noticed, big cuffs, bit baggy, and it's very think cotton), and wore my jeans. My mentality: was that if I could pull the look off, I'd have no problems pulling it off with my nice fitting shirts, with the jeans. So with all your feedback, I believe that I can pull the look off. I did feel pretty good with the look, but of course I was going to be biased about the look (I got a few good comments around the office as well) The shoe thing, I'm not a fan of curved toed shoes. Once again, thanks for your feedback, it means a lot. --Wade PS swooc / PunctualAlex, thanks for such compliments!