Originally Posted by whodini
Clearly it's not as black and white as I made it out to be in my example. Do all musicians share Miles Davis' mentality and play with their backs to the audience or refund ticket money? The context of my examples was to explain why people would feel inclined to do things for themselves first and others second. When I buy clothing, for example, I buy in my size and try not to worry about the size of my neighbor. (I need to stop reading 'Zen Flesh, Zen Bones.')
I get the context and you illustrated the point well, I just thought the moderate outpouring of "It's for us!" didn't acknowledge the entirety of the forum, who's reasons vary widely and are more complex than that.
May sound selfish but if one can't even pleasure himself... I mean, please. If one can't even PLEASE himself then what's the point? (insert photo of tool shed here)
Agreed, but again it ignores the people who don't care about clothes in the slightest for their own sake but want to look as good as possible to others, which would please them the most. Which probably doesn't describe anyone who sticks around here for very long. OK, I withdraw that entire example.
As I said before, everyone has their own reason for dressing the way they do and how they came to said process. I also didn't condemn, as you'll note, when I said that the lad is only in the minority around here in dressing for others. I made that statement speaking for what I believe has been the general consensus of this forum. There haven't been too many "fuckin' whodini's lost it again" posts lately so I continue to feel comfortable with my opinions.
I didn't mean to imply that you'd condemned him, as stated earlier I felt the general condescension for his point of view didn't account for the fact that there are plenty of people here who want to balance dressing for other people and their own style. I just didn't think the kid needed to be possibly made to feel stupid (again, not you) just because he was encountered a philosophy on clothes that's obviously very alien to him. A lot of the shit on this forum, and this thread perhaps more than any other, was strange to me when I first got here. But you learn a lot and your eyes get opened to some different ideas both in actual aesthetics and in your perspective on clothes in general. I certainly can't profess to the same exclusivity of some in my own reasons for dressing the way I do, but I still really enjoy my time here. I thought he should be given the same chance.
I do believe that we do wear a sort of "uniform" here but I'm not sure it matches your example. To all members of this forum, if you dress that way (chucks, raws, Wranglers) purposely to pick up chicks will you please raise your hand. C'mon now, I'm counting to three....
I didn't say pick up chicks, but to attract a certain kind of chick and probably repel another kind at the same time. Girls that are at first glance attracted to the guy in Pumas, True Religions flarez, and an ironic T-shirt probably aren't the same girls that go for the dude in Chucks, slim/Skinny dark jeans. I am fairly certain of this, and I'm not saying this is a primary concern in choosing that look but I'd be very surprised if people aren't aware of this. Maybe this is just the psych major in me, but show a girl the same exact guy in those two different outfits (or more extreme examples of the stereotypes) and you'll get very different descriptions of their non-physical characteristics.
Apparently we're the same age. If 'Kid A' changed your life then 'OK Computer' must have been your rebirth.
I'd say that's pretty accurate. I still think OK Computer is the better record all things considered and I consider it my favorite of all time, but Kid A made me think in completely different ways about the new music I would hear.
I'm too much of a Radiohead-Head to agree but it was the first song to teach me to dance like a spaz. Hell, first Radiohead song to make me dance, period. I'll put it tied with "Morning Bell" for best song. Best live is "Everything in Its Right Place," all 20 mins that they extend it to.
I think In Limbo is being somewhat underrated in this discussion.
Added bonus: Here's Dutch Radiohead coverband Nardys doing "Idioteque." Yes, I swear it's a cover band. If you want more, PM. I've got a full show of eerie-similarity. http://www.divshare.com/download/1234446-88c
Just click "Play."
I have a phobia of Radiohead covers, as if they'll somehow taint the original for me. I consider the emotional associations I have with Radiohead records so precious that I have to artificially limit how often I listen to them, and only do so in very particular situations. I am a little interested in the guy who does the classical piano covers, if any wants to recommend him. I will now cede this thread back to its original purpose.