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post #2521 of 2535
I just had a wonderful experience buying a pair of Common Projects Desert Boots from pronxs. They are exactly as described and shipping was very prompt after payment. I could not have asked for a smoother transaction, he was very courteous and responded fast to messages. DEFINITELY would do business with him again. Love the shoes even though they're a bit too big (and a bit too slim), but the service was great.
post #2522 of 2535
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Originally Posted by Shoreman View Post




Doesn't surprise me. I think it was a couple of days after BeatLA received his money for the Alden's Harbin tried to steal that he turned around and offered to sell them to me. They're beautiful shoes, so I gave him my conditions if I were ever to consider doing business with him. Up until then he had been very talkative and polite; his response to my conditions was very curt and dismissive. I knew right away that he hadn't learned a damn thing from everything that occurred and thus concluded that the only thing that would have sparked a change was had legal action been taken.


I was not "curt and dismissive" at all. I asked shoreman if he still wanted to buy the shoes, and his conditions were that they had to be $100, and he would send money after it had cleared customs. I responded that I would let him know if I decide to sell.

"Shoreman
Jul 19, 2011 at 6:09 am
Sorry, but a crazy deal would be the only kind of deal. I know you understand. I would not be prepared to send you any more than $100 shipped for the shoes and only after confirmation that the item has cleared customs.

Harbin
Jul 19, 2011 at 6:13 am
I'll let you know if I decide to sell it, thanks."

I'm not sure how that is being unpolite because I couldn't accept your conditions for a "crazy deal" right away? I don't think my response justifies you thinking that I didn't learn a thing from everything that's happened.
post #2523 of 2535
Just sold a pair of shoes to Coolhwip and it was a complete pleasure! I would highly recommend him as a legitimate buyer!!!

And Harbin, Shoreman is not a liar. You happend to be the one in question. If I were you I would just STFU and lay low with selling. Take Shoreman's advice that he previously posted for you. Just stop defending yourself because you are not good at it.
post #2524 of 2535
lol just read the story, i don't get it but what justifies you asking for this 'crazy deal', Shoreman?

he fucked up and shouldn't be selling for the time being, given.

but i just don't understand why you would lowball him.

before i read on i thought the conditions were going to be something like "$200 via USPS including tracking,confirmation,insurance etc." so everyone would be protected from foul play again.

offering the dude $100 is just wrong when you know the shoes are worth more than that. you should just tell him no if you are afraid of a repeat., but you selfishly want the shoes thinking you can guilt him into it. lol

give the dude the benefit of the doubt, and buy at your own risk. but for god sake, why would you offer him $100 for a shoe well worth the original $200 (retail $400). and you thought his response to $100 offer was "curt and dismissive"? i would've told you to 'fuck off'
post #2525 of 2535
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Originally Posted by gettoasty View Post

lol just read the story, i don't get it but what justifies you asking for this 'crazy deal', Shoreman?

he fucked up and shouldn't be selling for the time being, given.

but i just don't understand why you would lowball him.

before i read on i thought the conditions were going to be something like "$200 via USPS including tracking,confirmation,insurance etc." so everyone would be protected from foul play again.

offering the dude $100 is just wrong when you know the shoes are worth more than that. you should just tell him no if you are afraid of a repeat., but you selfishly want the shoes thinking you can guilt him into it. lol

give the dude the benefit of the doubt, and buy at your own risk. but for god sake, why would you offer him $100 for a shoe well worth the original $200 (retail $400). and you thought his response to $100 offer was "curt and dismissive"? i would've told you to 'fuck off'


Dude was just snagged trying to rob people of their hard-earned cash--I could have very easily been the other. He openly admitted to having been screwed out of $600 and was attempting to make it back. 

 

So, let's put this into perspective: you've just fucked BeatLA out of his money, effectively dissolving his trust in the buy/sell system we frequently use on SF and SuFu; you then publicly attempt to tarnish his reputation as a seller by leaving him negative feed-back while subsequently attempting to peddle the shoes in the same scam to me. (Granted, I initiated the transaction.) Had I not initiated the negotiations, the shoes would have been sold to an unsuspecting buyer who would have never received his purchase, thus continuing the cycle of deceit. 

 

I don't give a fuck what the value of the shoes are, the cocksucker is a thief and I gave him an immediate opportunity to start repairing his reputation when he made the foolish mistake of attempting to sell them to me again! Essentially right after the situation was concluded in favour of BeatLA. Here's a taste:

 

 

Harbin
Jul 19, 2011 at 4:41 am
Thanks, that helped me a lot. Now that everything is cleared up, do you still wish to buy the shoes? I'm probably going to take a break from selling here, but I thought maybe you would still want the shoes.

Thanks for the help,
Alex

 

 And he had the audacity to start defending himself in this thread. Fuck you; you don't deserve anything, least of all our sympathy. I gave you my recommendation when you whined like a little bitch apologizing for what you've done in a pm to me after the fact. Here, since we're making our discussion public:

 

Harbin
Jul 14, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Shoreman, just thought I'd send you a pm saying I am thankful you turned me in. I needed to learn a lesson from this otherwise it would have the potential to lead to do worse things in the future. I'm sorry I wasted your time. I feel horrible for losing everyone's trust...
You can ignore this message, but it calms me to let you know what I am thinking. Maybe one day you may still trust me and we can make a transaction, because I do believe thieves can have a change of heart and learn from one mistake like I did.

best,
Alex

 

I didn't force him to take my offer. I gave him the details of the deal and he declined. I was just highlighting that he wasn't his usual chatty,apologetic, sympathy chasing self when responding. He saw a lost opportunity and, as pronx made note, started selling elsewhere.

 

"Selfish"? Ask BeatLA and the others who witnessed Harbin's plan foiled live if I'm being "selfish." 

 

Oh yeah, and Toasty? I'm telling you now you can "eat a fucking dick." :)


Edited by Patrick James - 7/27/11 at 3:43am
post #2526 of 2535
"So, let's put this into perspective: you've just fucked BeatLA out of his money, effectively dissolving his trust in the buy/sell system we frequently use on SF and SuFu; you then publicly attempt to tarnish his reputation as a seller by leaving him negative feed-back while subsequently attempting to peddle the shoes in the same scam to me. (Granted, I initiated the transaction.) Had I not initiated the negotiations, the shoes would have been sold to an unsuspecting buyer who would have never received his purchase, thus continuing the cycle of deceit."

Glad to know you don't even know what even happened and continue to be mad because I didn't want to sell you the shoes for $100. First of all, I have never not shipped an item that I've sold. The incident with BLA is different. How would I have scammed you if you bought the shoes from me? What "scam" would I do?

I pm'ed you to thank you for your help, and you used that as an opportunity to guilt me in selling the shoes to you for $100, which is bullshit. I didn't know that an opportunity for me to regain some reputation equals you getting the best deal ever on the shoes. Like toasty said, I could have said fuck off, which WOULD have been "curt and dismissive" as you've said, but instead I said that I'd consider it and even said thank you . How can trying to guilt me into selling you the shoes for $100 not be selfish? I've already admitted that what I've done was wrong and sent money back and regret it, and what you're doing is trying to take advantage of the situation for your own good rather than truly trying to help me.

"And he had the audacity to start defending himself in this thread. Fuck you; you don't deserve anything, least of all our sympathy. I gave you my recommendation when you whined like a little bitch apologizing for what you've done in a pm to me after the fact."

I'm only defending myself because you're making me seem like I responded in a douchebag way, which I proved I didn't. Now you are saying fuck you and calling me a whiny bitch, are you that mad that I didn't accept your conditions to buy my shoes?

I thought you were genuinely trying to help me in the situation, but now we all know that you were just doing it with the notion to get the shoes for free. And since I didn't accept your offer, you try to make me seem even worse of a person instead of trying to help me.
post #2527 of 2535
Quote:
"So, let's put this into perspective: you've just fucked BeatLA out of his money, effectively dissolving his trust in the buy/sell system we frequently use on SF and SuFu; you then publicly attempt to tarnish his reputation as a seller by leaving him negative feed-back while subsequently attempting to peddle the shoes in the same scam to me. (Granted, I initiated the transaction.) Had I not initiated the negotiations, the shoes would have been sold to an unsuspecting buyer who would have never received his purchase, thus continuing the cycle of deceit."

Glad to know you don't even know what even happened and continue to be mad because I didn't want to sell you the shoes for $100. First of all, I have never not shipped an item that I've sold. The incident with BLA is different. How would I have scammed you if you bought the shoes from me? What "scam" would I do?

I pm'ed you to thank you for your help, and you used that as an opportunity to guilt me in selling the shoes to you for $100, which is bullshit. I didn't know that an opportunity for me to regain some reputation equals you getting the best deal ever on the shoes. Like toasty said, I could have said fuck off, which WOULD have been "curt and dismissive" as you've said, but instead I said that I'd consider it and even said thank you . How can trying to guilt me into selling you the shoes for $100 not be selfish? I've already admitted that what I've done was wrong and sent money back and regret it, and what you're doing is trying to take advantage of the situation for your own good rather than truly trying to help me.
Quote:
"And he had the audacity to start defending himself in this thread. Fuck you; you don't deserve anything, least of all our sympathy. I gave you my recommendation when you whined like a little bitch apologizing for what you've done in a pm to me after the fact."

I'm only defending myself because you're making me seem like I responded in a douchebag way, which I proved I didn't. Now you are saying fuck you and calling me a whiny bitch, are you that mad that I didn't accept your conditions to buy my shoes?

I thought you were genuinely trying to help me in the situation, but now we all know that you were just doing it with the notion to get the shoes for free. And since I didn't accept your offer, you try to make me seem even worse of a person instead of trying to help me.
post #2528 of 2535
As much as I wouldn't take part in a transaction with Harbin, I don't think he really acted like a complete jackass or anything through his pms / defending himself on this thread.
post #2529 of 2535

Guilt you? You approached me the second time. I could care less about the shoes. (They're just shoes, after all.) Stop dicking around; no one cares. You don't have anything to say at this point worth listening to, anyway. I said you were "dismissive and curt" and you're acting as if I said you fucked a 12 year old and then spat in her face. Stop catching feelings on the net.

 

You are a douchebag for trying to steal someone's money--which happens to be very real…how is that such a difficult concept to comprehend? We were simply bringing to light that you are attempting to sell again, which we felt the community should be made aware of. Seriously, if you didn't want the backlash that resulted, you shouldn't have committed the crime, which is essentially what you did. It was a ridiculous offer I made you, one that nobody would accept. I was hoping you would be offended and realize this is what things have come to for you and change your ways. The hilarious thing is that you actually had the brass to try and sell me the shoes--of all people, who only approached you in the first place because I was trying to help someone else, not because I actually wanted to buy the shoes off you--right after everything that had transpired. Did you think I lucked into your offering me the Alden's in a trade for several of my items? That's sad, Harbin. I, quite easily, got that information out of you for the strict purpose of nailing you in a scam. Sure, I may toss in some curse words from time to time to denote the extent to which I am frustrated with your refusal to accept the result, but that doesn't deter from the fact that I am, in essence, right. Stop trying to paint me as the bad guy because I am being "mean" to you. 

 

Issue closed.


Edited by Patrick James - 7/27/11 at 8:23am
post #2530 of 2535
Harbin, you are out of line, full of shit, and a worthless part of this community. Stop trying to defend yourself and be quiet. Shoreman is a legitimate member of this forum who caught you trying to scam people. I would do business with Shoreman ANY DAY of the week but as for you Harbin, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire let alone buy/ sell/ or trade a thing with you. People need to know that since you insist on saying that you are not a bad guy/ scammer which is not the case.

"Glad to know you don't even know what even happened and continue to be mad because I didn't want to sell you the shoes for $100."

PS - He knows EVERYTHING that happened so STFU!
post #2531 of 2535
I will keep this short: do not deal with Harbin. Not even if he proves to be the second coming of Jesus.

And yeah: your little scam was discussed and followed elsewhere by a few members, as myself, who are also on SF... I don't care if you're regretful. Pack it and shut it.
post #2532 of 2535
Sorry to hear about the negative dealings with Harbin. I've got nothing but respect for the dudes who have posted their grievances. However, I did have a positive transaction with Harbin a few months back, so it's a bummer to read these posts.
post #2533 of 2535
Harbin, that was fucked up. It's people like you who make me cautious about buying and selling on forums. Having said that, shoreman should have just said "No thank you" when harbin approached him the second time about buying the shoes.
post #2534 of 2535
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Originally Posted by grooveholmes View Post

Sorry to hear about the negative dealings with Harbin. I've got nothing but respect for the dudes who have posted their grievances. However, I did have a positive transaction with Harbin a few months back, so it's a bummer to read these posts.

HEY I KNOW YOU FROM SVPPLY
post #2535 of 2535
Bought some New Standards from elo820. Got em two days after payment biggrin.gif
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